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Old 05-29-2004, 01:00 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I too dislike bad grammar, but to the guy who started this thread. If you want to be so pedantic as to moan about such a thing, I've taken the liberty of adding my own comments as well as correcting many of your own grammar errors:


"I hate all of those dumb little internet pricks that don't know the difference between 'have' and 'of' in sentences.


(a first comment. Beginning an insulting rant with dumb, little and prick. Dumb meaning unable to speak, little meaning small in size and prick meaning a small puncture. Well done lad, you're doing well so far.)


For example, somebody might say, "I could OF gone to the game, but they left without me". They correct grammar is "could have gone".

The thing is, with our dumb language, this was shortened, like E'RTHING else. People began to say things like "could've" and "would've" which stupid little pricks on the internet and message boards have turned into "could of" and "would of".


(quick comment here. The ve in 'could've' and 'would've' is a short form of have, not sure what the hell you are talking about)


My advice here to all you little uneducated bastards is get off of the internet and do some extra studying.


(another comment. The irony of calling somebody an uneducated bastard. When the word bastard is clearly a term not applicable to most of the people who can't use grammar. And then calling them uneducated when you yourself have just used a ridiculous insult.)


There are so many things that bother me about teenagers these days (mostly having to do with them being spoilt), but what bothers me the most is how uneducated they are when it comes to grammar.


(there's a big difference between lazy and uneducated.)


PLEASE go to your English teachers and have them teach you the differences between There, Their and They're. And the differences between all of the other easy third grade words that you all misuse on a daily basis. Get an education!


(first off, no capitals in any of the 'there', 'their' and 'they're'. Now, I know the meaning of each but if you're on such a high horse, I wonder if you could care to explain it to us? And if you hate abbreviates so much, why would you use 'they're'? Furthermore, here's a mistake from you, "ALL MISUSE". Are you implying that every teenager misuses these words? If so, then I challenge you to some sort of grammar or spelling contest and I will show you that you can't judge all teenagers by our worst examples.)


Surprisingly the stupid "leet" chatter does not bother me as much as improper grammar, because at least "leet" can be a form of slang. Simple grammar errors are just careless and dumb.


(there's that 'dumb' again...)


I have vented. Ahhh. Must use the bathroom now.

Bye.


(no comments as you say 'bye', is refreshing to see you shutting up...)


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Old 05-29-2004, 01:38 PM   #12 (permalink)
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^^^You amuse me by talking of pedantry, and then go on to do exactly that. Whether it was intentional or not, I don't know. If it was, it suggests an element of irony was intended. If that was the plan, it didn't work.

You're picking the thread starter up on his use of words such as "dumb", "prick" and "little", ignoring the context they were meant in. Everyone's well aware of what the true/original meanings of the words are, but over time they've come to mean more than just one thing, as with most words, even if they are still considered slang. Taking the word "dumb" as an example, its true meaning (the inability to speak) has been overtaken by its other meaning, "stupid". It's completely acceptable to use it in that context.

You also pick him up on refering to people as "uneducated bastards". That's a bit of a funny one too, as you again take the word "bastard" to mean it's literal meaning, illigitimacy. Again, it being used as an insult is now more commonly regarded than its original meaning, so there's nothing wrong with what he's written there, either.

Lastly, I see you point out there's a difference between being lazy and uneducated. Good spot, ten out of ten for observation. But what's it got to do with anything? Laziness isn't an excuse for poor grammar. It's arguably not even related to it. Grammar, like spelling, should be second nature in most aspects, which means laziness is not an excuse for it being sub-par. Therefore, it is logical to assume that in most cases (not all, admittedly) a lack of understanding is to blame, which suggests a lack of education on the matter.

I'm not saying there's nothing wrong, grammatically, with the first post in this thread. Nitemare pointed out most of it in his post. There are, however, fewer gaping holes than in your post.


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Old 05-29-2004, 01:48 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 05-29-2004, 03:20 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Thanks for that well-written response Flash. I do however have one main argument in response to that.

You accuse me of pedantry in response to the original post, but in response to that I'll just say, "fight fire with fire". You're an intelligent fellow, you'll know what I mean.

But as pertains to my main argument - huge gaping holes I think were acceptable in my argument because I'm not the person moaning about bad grammar and spelling. The original poster however was. I'll give an example.

If a doctor spelt "conjunctivitis" slightly incorrectly, we'd all think him to be an idiot. If an average human being spelt it slightly incorrectly, it could be forgiven - it's a tough word.

In the same context, I'm not one to moan about the improper usage of the English language, and I haven't done so. My argument was simply that if somebody WAS going to moan about such a thing, their own argument should be written using good English, anything less is hypocritic.

I understand what you're saying about my argument with gaping grammatical holes - fair enough. But my point was just that a person boasting about his usage of the English language should at least attempt to use the language properly, if not always, then at least in that circumstance.

Again, I see what you mean about the usages of words such as dumb and bastard, and I admit to using them myself in general speech. But if I was to moan about the way people used the English language, I'd be certain to get everything 100% or else be prepared to look like a fool. My response to the original poster was more an attempt to point out this flaw in his argument rather than produce any form of argument myself. I really don't care if people use 'of' instead of 'have. As long as what they're saying SOUNDS like what they mean to say, it's fine.

I hope that makes sense Flash. If not, I'd be happy to discuss it with via another method if you so wish.

Oh, and it's illegitimacy, lol!

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Oh, GOD!

Will you people please stop making me read so much? It starts to hurt the empty crevice in my head.

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Will you people please stop making me read so much? It starts to hurt the empty crevice in my head.

Thanks.

*Gives WFnS a coply of War and Peace.*

It's only got 3 chapters.

Most of the bad grammar on the 'net is just people being lazy. Doesn't bother me, if I want to make sure I got a word spelt right I use Microsoft Word.
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Old 05-29-2004, 06:36 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Microsoft Word is inaccurate, too. I correct it more than it corrects me...
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The thing is, with our dumb language, this was shortened, like E'RTHING else. People began to say things like "could've" and "would've" which stupid little pricks on the internet and message boards have turned into "could of" and "would of".


(quick comment here. The ve in 'could've' and 'would've' is a short form of have, not sure what the hell you are talking about)
I think what he meant by this is that, due to the face that 'could have' and 'would have' are often abbreviated to 'could've' and 'would've', people have misread/misheard/misinterpreted them as 'could of' and 'would of'.
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Oh god you all need to get lives. Especially you Mr Flashy <3 you really
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Old 05-30-2004, 07:53 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Lol, i agree with AleXXX and WFnS, its alot to read!

Its quite sad that someone would come to a 'werstling based' discussion forums to complain about the grammar and spelling of teenagers, when i'm pretty sure, most of the users are teenagers and dont care!

However it is nice that Flash has someone to paly with, with his big, long, complicated words!

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