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Old 02-11-2004, 04:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Personally I don't didn't agree with the War on Iraq. I was glad to see the capture of Saddam (I omit his surname because I cannae spell it!) but bar that and the topling of his regemé nothing good has come of it for the Iraqi people.

As for the "War On Terrorism" I think it encourages terrorism rather than cranking down on it; or rather creates a certain mass hysteria over terrorism. I live in the Irish Republic, I wasn't too far from Omagh the day it was bombed in 1997 by the "Real IRA". Terrorists have been active a couple of hours drive from where I am sitting right now and Georged W. hasn't lifed a finger. Granted there has been the Good Friday agreement and some paramiltary organisations have called a cease fire, which all occured before anyone in the wider world knew who Osama Bin Laden was. But still there are paramilitaries in Northern Ireland, who carry on with killing innocent people(not the IRA[they have kept the cease fire] but other groups such as the UVF). It's an age old problem up north, has been since partition in the 20's.
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Old 02-11-2004, 06:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The issue is a little too deep to go into detail about it here so i'll just generalise.

Saddam was a parasite that had to be removed. To be blunt, if I had the military might and technology that the Americans possess, I wouldn't hesitate to drop any ammount of bombs (regardless of cost) on Iraq to clean him out. I don't care about the legitimacies of going to war or if it were "legal" or not because it needed to be done.

The war on terrorism though is a topic my opinion has changed on. Initially (Sep 11 onwards), terrorism was something that needed to be stopped completely and Bush used scare tactics to convince Americans and the western world that it needs to be stopped. However, terrorism isn't something that can be swept up under the rug in a matter of years, you can't win the war on terrorism. It's not like winning a war against a country and all of a sudden it's all over. Terrorism is a mentality that in my opinion will be near impossible to get rid of. If someone decides to walk into a subway with their chest strapped with TNT and pushes the button, that's terrorism. It's something that will be too hard to eliminate. The thing I don't agree with is the terror warnings. Suddenly one day increasing the terror threat from "orange" or "red" (or what ever it is) because intel have increased fear something may occur. It's scaring the public unecessarily and I don't really see what it achieves, apart from convincing the public that they think they know what they are doing.
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Old 02-11-2004, 06:49 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Bearing that in mind that poverty is also a mentality however we declard war on poverty long ago and they still keep up with it to this day.

Also, Bush declared a war onterrorism, it wasn't meant to just end when his administration does. If Keery in 2004, or Shrillary in 2008 is elected, it will end very abruptly.

As for the IRA, you have to acknolwedge thev IRA is not your government. All those terrorists control the governments. There is no internal force to fight off the militants. The Irish government and the British government can both actually take action.
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Old 02-11-2004, 08:20 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Wasted time, money, and deaths. All for oil. Kind of ironic, we want North Korea to stop their nuclear energy facilities, yet are starting a war for oil, another source of energy.
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Old 02-11-2004, 11:33 PM   #15 (permalink)
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And you have proof that it's all about the oil right? We have proof that France was all about the oil, but not the U.S.
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Old 02-11-2004, 11:35 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Seeing as Angel has every second fucking reply, this will turn into a Rant for sure. So I'll move it there.
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Funny you mention that. I was just gonna say it's sorta not fair how no one can have an opinion without Angel bashing it and putting them down for having it. Come on, you don't have to reply to every single freaking post. Damn..
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Old 02-12-2004, 12:14 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Yes I do.
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Old 02-12-2004, 12:16 AM   #19 (permalink)
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No, you don't.
You are bagging the opinions of everyone in this thread. You do it on most threads you decide to visit. You've said your bit, now piss off and let others say theirs.
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Old 02-12-2004, 12:17 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Ooooooooh. Snippy are we?
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