Yes I am making it easy to set YOU up for a fail vs me because I win every fucking time homeboy.
And if biased means me hating cena. YES I hate cena. But YOU are clearly a cena defender and are a fan of the guy. Don't even deny it. Anyone who makes the asinine excuses that you do to defend the guy and continue to repeat himself even after being put in place is clearly a biased cena mark.
You still don't get what I mean huh. You're fucking stupid homeboy. You is one dence motha fucka. When I say you are nitpicking I am trying to imply the fact that you won't answer and counter the fact I been asking you how has cena elevated wyatt and sandow and ryder etc. All you've done is post that retarded interview sandow kissing up to the company to look good. Show me how it has in any way elevated sandow and his character on the show and card etc. And please explain how both ryder and bray wyatt were ever elevated by cena. You nit pick and choose not to answer that. I'll scroll down and see if you have yet to fucking answer what I been saying to you LOL......
He is garbage.... That's the whole point of this. You make him out like he's a God and defend him with absurd asinine notions. It's fucking stupid.
You have yet to prove how he is such a great transcending star. All I have to say is refer to Austin Rock Hogan. They brought millions into the product. Ratings records buy rates etc etc. Cena is just a guy whose made money because of the way he's booked. He is nothing special and not in their leauge period. Cena could easily be replaced by someone better if given the right booking. Cena lacks any charisma to be larger than life which is why he hasn't transcended the business like Hogan Austin Rock...
I never said he didn't have his fans. Cena wasn't the only one pushed either it was batista to. And back then he was the thuganomics not the goofball he is today. More people liked him back then and he did a whole 180 change and turned on what got him popular orginally in the first place. People got sick of him by 2006 hense those crowds that shit all over him at mania 2006 and one night stand 2006. Since then the mans been shit on in pretty much majority of the arenas he goes in. He draws to the Cena fans. He doesn't bring any massive numbers in like Austin Rock Or Hogan did. Because again, he's nothing special and he is far from a transcendant guy because he lacks the charisma and is an over rated bum. The cena fans like YOU by into his booking and like the kayfabe character.
It seems like you are claiming he is because you're implying Cena is something special and an amazing transcendant guy like Austin Rock and Hogan. And he is the furthest thing from it.... You claim he's not replaceable when he can clearly be if given the right booking to soemone else. Daniel Bryan was that guy. And the man was more over than cena ever was and all they did was bury the man and the fans still stuck behind him.
No. I can flat out tell you right now the man has more than 5 moves. It's just all the moves he attempts to do look shitty. I'll give him credit the man does do an okay leg drop but that's about it. And that's coming from me a massive John Cena hater. But the thing I know your a big cena fan/defender is because of the lengths you go to defending cena with asinine false propaganda notions. The man fucking blows... You claim he is irreplaceable and that he elevated sandow even though HE CLEARLY has been buried.
Uh You can thank Batista for that. Big Dave ALSO had a push. Batista was basically the other top guy. He main evented mania 2005.
The fact you even say that makes me think you didn't watch when Hogan was on top .Cena couldn't sniff Hogans asshole. Hogan brought millions to the product and was mega transcendant. Cena wouldn't even be here if it weren't for Hogan. Hogan may not been the best ring worker but he was charasmatic as hell and many loved the guy refer to his highest rated segment of all time. Cena ain't done jack shit compared to Hogan. And Hogan turned heel. Cena won't.
I am not denying Kevin Nash sucked. I was only a fan of Nash in the NWO. Either way he still was never on top as long as Cena. So it really doesn't matter.
I was implying ''best matches'' even though I said best match. Same thing. You're basically saying you think Cena was a part of the best matches and I already stated plenty of matches/feuds I'd choose over Cena with whoever else.
Cena looks terrible and is awful at selling the moves. Punk may not be perfect but he is far better than Cena was in that match BY FAR... And by far as talent as well. Punk got me intrigued into that whole storyline as well he was the star in that whole feud/match. Not fuckboy cena.
He carried Cena's ass through the match and storyline. Go watch a John Cena vs Big Show match and I rest my case. Cena is a shitty wrestler. If you like the way he wrestles than that's you I guess. I think he looked shitty. And Punk carried him in that storyline on the mic and the storytelling as a whole. Cena is garbage on the mic.
Bray Wyatt carried Cena. The fact you think he didn't LOL...I can't believe you even say that retarded bullshit LMFAO... Go watch the match with Cena vs Kane the next night on RAW after that last cena vs wyatt match. Kane is way past his prime and sucks now and cena already sucks and go watch bray wyatt vs cena. Basically a broom stick vs bray wyatt. And the next night on raw a broom stick vs another broom stick.
[/First off the PG Era doesn't exist.
Second, if that was the reason for the match being good then I wouldn't have mentioned two Last Man Standing matches that he was in. Fucking idiot.
LMFAO '' First off the PG era doesn't exisit''
I totally forgot this was another argument I destroyed you in. EVEN YOUR HERO John Cena admitted there is a PG era on Stone Cold's podcast that WWE is in the PG ERA direction. Go listen to the podcast with Cena and Stone Cold. Not to mention the fact WWE completely went from a smash mouth TV show with blood violence women and a TV-14 rating and went and changed it into a family friendly PG rated show. And again John Cena himself even refered to the ''PG ERA'' on stone cold's podcast.
Cena made Sandow look like complete shit. How is it beleivable that a guy with 1 arm (cena had an injured arm) who gets attacked before the match. Sandow beat the fuck out of him threw him into steps and kept attacking him. He still ended up losing to Cena. And since then has been jobbing out and hasn't one a match since. In what way did Cena make Sandow's character more credibile on the card that he got elevated? Please do explain that you've yet to. And also I'm still waiting for you to explain Bray Wyatt and Zack ryder. Once again you're just nit picking....
Show me clarification. What relevant storyline, feud, victory or anything has Sandow been in since? I can provide facts to why Cena never elevated him and he's credibility has gone down hill since. Since he's been jobbing out to adam rose within 3 many other loses while doing this dumb gimmicks. From Magneto that time he came out in a tu tu or whatever the fuck that was. Dressing up like lebron james and paul bonyan and all the other stupid crap they done to the guy. The man is buried.
It is clearly obvious Sandow is trying to play the game when he did that interview in hopes of keeping on the companies good side. He isn't dumb like ziggler to bash it. And still the man has been booked like complete shit since losing to cena. He is an absolute joke now... Show me ANY PROOF that cena elevated his character. What relevant storyline feud victory has he been in. Like I said I have provided many reasoning why he's not been elevated and is a joke now.
I sure did. Decimated these retarded arguments by you lmfao...
Finally!!! You're mentioning Wyatt. And no you haven't explained jack shit until now. Well try to explain you're retarded reasoning LMFAO...
What you just said is the dumbest thing I've ever read on this forum when it comes to Wyatt being ''elevated by cena'' Usually the people who claim he was elevated don't even state why and claim he just wasn't ruined by Cena. Lmfao.... Alright thanks for the laughs on this one. Anyways....
Let me break down the Cena Wyatt feud for you. This is a copy/paste of mine I saved responding to another retard like you who claims Cena elevated Wyatt.
Here is a copy/paste from the guy I responded to who said this.
I'll bold it for you.
AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM.... Bray Wyatt was on an amazing run he EVEN had a win on the SOON to be WWE WHC in Daniel Bryan who was getting pushed to win the belts at the time. And Bryan never got his win back either. And I had no problem really with it at the time cause i Looked it as wyatt was getting built up. BUT in all actuality he was just another heel built up to be fed to cena. LIKE MANY MANY people who I could list...
The thing is they should of put wyatt in a feud with bryan after he had the belts instead of that retarded feud with kane. IMO it should of been shield vs wyatts at mania. Shield was wasted in a random shitty filler match at mania. Wyatt got fed to Cena on THE BIGGEST STAGE OF THE YEAR and ONE of the biggest mania's of all time aka the 30th anniversary of mania. People look back at that and they remember the fact cena won THAT MATCH. AND by the way in such a ridiculous fashion. All the Wyatt's constantly inferered in the match and still they wouldn't even give bray a cheating win. Cena still went over.
The feud continued and throughout the whole feud. Cena no sold bray's promo's broke kayfabe and made a mockery of bray instead of making him look like a legit threat. And the times he ''tried to make it look serious'' How could we when one we he called wyatt a hobo and then he claims he's scared the next week he's not and back and forth so forth. Cena's acting in the promos with wyatt were terrible. Wyatt shined while Cena looked like a joke.
Then that ER cage match came up and the RAW right before it it was 3 ON 1 handicapped match. Cena AA'd wyatt and was about to pin him right before Luke and Eric jumped in. THEY COULDN'T EVEN GIVE BRAY WYATT A WIN INA HANDICAPPED MATCH..... Not even a pinfall...
Then the Cage match came Cena looked like superman... No better yet like almighty God where the dude literally could of won 75 times. All 3 wyatt's down how does the match end? A little child singing and cena is ''scared'' and then wyatt doesn't even get to pin cena his win is escaping the cage cause a kid distracted cena... and again HOW MANY TIMES did the wyatt's interfere in that match? I lost count...
And to top it off finish off the burial and close the cena wyatt feud they have Cena defeat Wyatt in that last man standing match. Uso's never once touched wyatt's yet the Wyatt brothers attacked Cena and Bray wyatt was even down for a count of TEN and ref didn't see it. And still Cena wins the match in the end and stands over wyatt in a box sort of like a coffin as if he buried Wyatt. Cena then SOLD the whole beating and smirked after the match and got up like nothing as well.
AND SINCE THEN HOW THE FUCK has this elevated bray wyatt? He's been irrelevant ever since. I can't even remember him winning a match. Not once during the Cena/Wyatt fued did Wyatt get a pin.
The fact that the former WWE WHC daniel bryan couldn't get a win on Wyatt yet cena could just shows how much of a joke and retarded this booking is.
What the fuck did Cena gain from beating Wyatt? Wyatt could of gained a lot of credibility if he beat Cena in this feud even if it wasn't clean. If anything wyatt lost credibility and now is irrelevant.
Now look where we are. Cena wins the belt again. Not only did he recently get fed one of the companies best heels now he has the belt again. A lot good this company is at building up talent right? Fuck no they still revolve it around this douche bag bitch pussy square head fuck.
Anyway your comment has been buried. I couldn't resist burying that retarded comment of yours with my truth....
[I never once made this claim, putting words in my mouth won't help your argument here. And btw, if any of this were true then I wouldn't be responding to you right now.
You did plenty and I exposed you and destroyed you plenty...
Show me one relevant storyline the man's done or win he has had. Again already countered this and have provided many reasons why he is buried and has not been elevated by cena. Scroll up agian just repeating yourself with different words.
Yet you're claiming he never ruined wyatt? and real good he has elevated sandow and wyatt huh? What great positions they are on the card now.
I said I am a biased cena hater? You yet to admit your a biased fan of the guy though.
You are biased and will defend the guy with retarded notions.
I don't care that you named me I actually found it funny however since you wanted to insult me by calling me stupid then I will insult you back and since you wanted to debate me again here we are me destroying you again...
And I seen you're posts as well with others aruging with people. Many can say the same to you as well. And I know I am not liked on here I don't care to me. A lot of Cena fans like yourself dislike me. I really don't care. And I have also been told by people to ignore you via pm that you're just a dude who likes to go back and forth but I won't back down to you. Cause I know I am right