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Meltzer's star ratings for Payback

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#1 · (Edited)
Sheamus vs. Dolph Ziggler: ***1/4
The New Day vs. Cesaro & Tyson Kidd: ***1/2
John Cena vs. Rusev: ***1/2
Seth Rollins vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Randy Orton vs. Roman Reigns: ***3/4
Did not find his ratings for Wyatt/Ryback, the divas match + Neville/Barrett. I'll add them if I can find them somewhere.
 
#10 ·
Except Cena's matches on TV for the US Open Challenge have been stellar and I will fully admit that and I even went as far to say I liked the Rusev/Cena Mania match.

No, this feud just went on too long and the I Quit match was just an exercise in pointlessness in addition to be one of the most boring matches I've seen in a while.
 
#13 ·
So now Reigns has had the highest rated match by Meltzer in every PPV from Fast Lane onwards. Awesome. Go Roman:cheer
 
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#34 · (Edited)
I have not made time to watch the PPV entirely, I was just looking forward to Macho Mandow and Axelmania(please ignore the *South Park* guy playing World of Warcraft and using his spare time to bitch about wrestling, you guys have a comedy angle that for once doesn't bore or insult one's intelligence), but I saw the 1st 2 matches.

I HATE MELTZER! I don't "hate" him, hate him, but he pisses me off with his overrating of puroseus and his ability to brainwash a generation of wrestling marks who can't make up their own minds. How the hell does he give Tanahashi and Okada 5 stars in every single one of their big matches, but give Sheamus and Ziggler only 3 1/4 stars? First, the two 5 star matches I saw from Tanahashi and Okada were good, but not 5 star good, one was 4 1/2 at best and the other no more than 4 stars, but to be fair, I don't know the storyline so, that does count for something. Now Sheamus and Ziggler do not have the best storyline, but it's decent enough considering their is no title or immediate contendership involved. Yet in the ring, Sheamus is smoother than he's ever been and Ziggler's timing has always been impeccable. These two cut an incredible pace for about 20 minutes that would put most ROH stars, indy darlings, X division and cruiserweights to shame. There was nothing wrong with that match... nothing. But because I understand the ratings process, story was lacking, but it's a 4 star match at least. It was also slightly better than the tag match which was also awesome. WWE is stepping it up, let's hope this continue. I will share my opinions on the rest of the event, if I ever get to watching it. I literally only cared for the Ziggler vs Sheamus match, I still haven't seen theirs in the ppv before, but I will now.

PS: I've thought about it and sometimes I wonder if Meltzer owns equity in NJPW and UFC because of how he constantly buries american wrestling next to these two brands and products. Meltzer doesn't even hype up ROH maybe because he knows WWE is the bread and butter for his newsletter. He destroys TNA all the time, and is partially responsible for them going out of business(People hang on to Dave's every word). It just doesn't make sense. I've looked up some of these names and matches from Japan, and many just don't hold up. I've chosen not to name any more in order to not incur the wrath of the internet. Point is... Ambrose vs Rollins(and they haven't even had a truly great match yet) over Tanahashi vs Okada. I also wonder if he gives Reigns so many charity points because he knows fans hate him and wants WWE's stock to drop... I'm just sayin... i mean theorizing.
 
#35 ·
I have not made time to watch the PPV entirely, I was just looking forward to Macho Mandow and Axelmania(please ignore the *South Park* guy playing World of Warcraft and using his spare time to bitch about wrestling, you guys have a comedy angle that for once doesn't bore or insult one's intelligence), but I saw the 1st 2 matches.

I HATE MELTZER! I don't "hate" him, hate him, but he pisses me off with his overrating of puroseus and his ability to brainwash a generation of wrestling marks who can't make up their own minds. How the hell does he give Tanahashi and Okada 5 stars in every single one of their big matches, but give Sheamus and Ziggler only 3 1/4 stars? First, the two 5 star matches I saw from Tanahashi and Okada were good, but not 5 star good, one was 4 1/2 at best and the other no more than 4 stars, but to be fair, I don't know the storyline so, that does count for something.
Okada/Tanahashi matches aren't really as good as they really are, if you haven't seen all of their matches. Same thing w/ many puro matches.

And it's just all about opinions. I think one of the matches he has rated 5-stars is one of the worst ROH matches of all-time, but he liked it. I find his ratings to be interesting, and I like to compare his ratings to my ratings & shit.
 
#3 ·
Neville vs Barrett *1/2
Tamina/Naomi vs The Bellas *
Sandow/Axel vs The Ascension 1/2*
R Truth vs Stardust *1/4
Sheamus vs Ziggler ***1/4

Can't believe he actually says that Cena-Rusev is as good as the Tag title match. Meltzer is losing it.
 
#28 ·
Can't say I agree with him on the Cena/Rusev rating. Much like the Reigns/Show LMS match from the last PPV too, although this PPV I don't have any issue with the Reigns match being MOTN. Actually, I have the same rating as him. :p
 
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