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#2 ·
AAW Day of Defiance 2013

1. Louis Lyndon & Marion Fontaine vs Zero Gravity
**1/2

2. Jake Crist vs Jimmy Jacobs
**3/4

3. Davey Richards vs Mixed Martial Archie
***3/4

4. ACH & Michael Elgin vs Team Ambition
****

5. Keith Walker, Tweek Phoenix & Dan Lawrence vs Colt Cabana, Juntai Miller & Mat Fitchett
**1/2

6/7/8. Eddie Kingston vs Jordan McEntyre, Markus Crane & Knight Wagner
N/R

9. Silas Young vs Samuray Del Sol
***1/4

10. Shane Hollister vs Sami Callihan
****1/4​
 
#3 ·
Kevin Steen was announced for AIW Hell On Earth 9. Oddly enough it was just the other day I was thinking that with apl the names who've been in AIW, I couldn't recall Steen ever being there.

I'm about to start watching PRIME Wrestlelution 5. I'll probably post my thoughts on it when I finish watching and get around to it.
 
#4 ·
Got bored. Decided if I ever win the lotto I will try and run this show because fuck money, I'd rather have wrestling.

1.Matt Cross vs Shane Hollister vs ACH vs Ricochet
2.AR Fox vs Andrew Everette vs Mike Bailey vs Shane Strickland
3.Reed Bentley vs Barret Brown
4.Jon Gresham vs Colt Cabana
5.Jimmy Jacobs vs Arik Cannon
6.PG-13 vs Tracey Smothers & Ricky Morton
intermission
7.Biff Busick vs Drew Gulak
8.Tommy Dreamer vs Drake Younger
9.Monster Mafia vs DoJo Bros
10.Andrew Everette vs Ricochet
11.Young Bucks vs Hardys (If Jeff departed from TNA.)
12.Jerry Lawler & Shane Williams vs Terry Funk & Scott Summers
 
#9 ·
I've done the same thing many times. It would be so great to be able to run a show on a unlimited/very high budget and have access to any talent you want. Personally I think I could put together a pretty great show but EWR has always told me that it was shit.
 
#5 ·
Just did a podcast on the 12 Large Summit so I've been going over the set the past few days and there are some real gems for sure.It is here if you WANT to listen.

Ophidian vs. Mike Quackenbush(5/25/11):***3/4
Wicked enjoyable counter matwrestling. Fun stuff. Gets a little more heated down the stretch. Total blast.

Fire Ant vs. Eddie Kingston(9/18/11):****
KINGSTON BABY! The man plays the predator and the prey in this one. Looks like an absolute bully against the smaller Fire Ant for the early portion but once Ant can do even a little damage to Kingston he finds him self on a much more even level with Kingston. Fire Ant flies around and Kingston gets stiff. Awesome match and somehow made me feel like it had less overkill than some other matches during this tournament.

Eddie Kingston vs. Mike Quackenbush(11/13/11):****1/2
I could go on for awhile on this match but I'll avoid that in writing. Had everything going for it. Perfect example of a BIG TIME INDY match. Not sure if it is the best Chikara match ever but it is certainly the best I've ever seen.
 
#7 ·
Just watched DBD XI. One question: what on earth makes Kevin Kelly think that someone could have watched ROH at 9 years old AND now be working for them? I mean it's possible if they were 9 in 2002 and now they're 20, but Adam Cole turned 9 in 1998...

Anyway, I haven't watched much ROH the last few years, but this was a pretty good show. I liked all the final four matches and the title match. Strong vs Marvin was good and the IWGP jr tag title match was good. Worth a watch, I'd say.


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#11 ·
Aaaaaannnndd I'm plugging my ROH DVDs again:


Night of Champions (3/22/2003)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251347478255?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649


Survival of the Fittest 2004 (6/24/2004)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251344120294?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649


This Means War (10/29/2005)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251347478905?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649


Tag Wars 2006 (1/27/2006)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251347479085?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649


Supercard of Honor I (3/31/2006)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251344118691?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649


Better Than Our Best (4/1/2006)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251344116879?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649


The Chicago Spectacular, Night 2 (12/9/2006)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251347479572?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649


Fifth Year Festival: NYC (2/16/2007)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251347479614?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649


Fifth Year Festival: Finale (3/4/2007)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251344113955?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649


Respect Is Earned (5/12/2007)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251347479922?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649


Driven 2007 (6/23/2007)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251344112953?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649


Death Before Dishonor V, Night 1 (8/10/2007)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251344111424?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649


Tag Wars 2008 (4/18/2008)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251347480027?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649


Respect Is Earned II (6/7/2008)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251344107853?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649


Seventh Anniversary Show (3/21/2009)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251344106516?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649


Manhattan Mayhem III (6/13/2009)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251347480656?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649


The Final Countdown Tour: Boston (9/25/2009)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251344103872?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
 
#12 ·
AIW Conspiracy Theory

1. ACH vs Ethan Page
***

2. Louis Lyndon vs Matt Cross
**3/4

3. Nixon vs The Jollyville Fuckits
**1/2

4. Josh Alexander vs Davey Vega
***

5. The Submission Squad vs The All American Ass Kickers
*1/2

6. Josh Prohibition vs Colin Delaney
**3/4

7. Hope & Change vs Kodama & Facade
**

8. Chris Dickinson vs Necro Butcher
***

9. Eddie Kingston vs Tim Donst
***1/4

10. ACH vs Michael Elgin
***3/4

11. Eric Ryan vs Johnny Gargano
***1/2​
 
#13 · (Edited)
ROH Death Before Dishonor Review:

Silas Young vs Jay Lethal - **1/4
Not a bad match but imo it was rushed and the finish came way to early.

ROH World Title Tournament Semifinal Match: Adam Cole vs. Tommaso Ciampa - ***3/4
That was awesome, great storytelling and probably the best match they could've done at this stage.

ROH World Title Tournament Semifinal Match: Michael Elgin vs. Kevin Steen - ***
Better than it was live, but still not good enough. Liked the beginning actaully much more but I wasn't the fan of the last minutes. To put this right after Cole/Ciampa wasn't a smart move.

IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Championship Match: Forever Hooligans(c) vs. The American Wolves - Skipped, never going to watch their matches ever again.

RD Evans vs. Adam Page - 1/2*

Ricky Marvin vs. Roderick Strong - **1/4
Meh, it was what it was. Marvin had pretty nice spots, esp the coast to coast dropkick or whatever that was. The finish was really awakward, what happend there?

C&C Wrestle Factory and Adrenaline Rush vs. reDRagon, Mike Bennett, and Matt Taven - **
Gigantic mess.

ROH World Title Tournament Finals: Adam Cole vs. Michael Elgin - ***1/4
Too much no-selling nonsense to my liking.. I just HATE how Cole always does 5-6 Bicycle kicks in his match and his opponents never sells them. It's just stupid. The neck work was solid and this was the only thing that kept my interst. Wanted to love this match much more after the hype but this wasn't for me I guess.
 
#14 ·
PRIME Wrestling: Wrestlelution 5

Jimmy Jacobs vs. Johnny Gargano
- This was a really good match. Told a really good story. Great choice to main event the biggest show of the year.

Rhino vs. Jason Bane

- Average match. Nothing special. I think they had to improvise as the ring broke in the middle of the match and it was pretty much Gore/Baneline from there

"M-Dogg 20" Matt Cross vs. Petey Williams
- Totally different from what I was expecting, yet still really good. Really didn't like the ending but that's my only complaint.

Zach Gowen vs. Gregory Iron
- Surprisingly enjoyable. They told a great story in this match alone and it's something you could understand just by the action in the ring and the commentators really helped fill in the blanks in the case that someone isn't a big PRIME follower.

Michael Facade vs. Gory
- I didn't really care for this match. I don't know why, it wasn't bad or anything. Maybe I wasn't in the mood for it but whatever. It was a casket match and for whatever reason it opened the show, which was a bad choice IMO.

Krimson vs. Matt Mason
- Not as good as Krimson/Bane from Wrestlelution 4, but this match told more of a story. Probably the best story of the show. Definitely one of the better matches on the card.

Bobby Shields vs. Bobby Beverly
- Beverly's good in the ring, but god damn he's horrible on the mic. This was a Hair vs. Hair match, and they really worked the Sex Appeal break-up into the match.

Marion Fontaine vs. Aaron Draven
- This match was there. I enjoy watching both guys wrestle (Although personally I enjoy Fontaine's AIW character more). It built off of the power struggle storyline, as well as the Main Event of Wrestlelution 4. The ending really ruined it for me.

Matthew Justice vs. Kirst
- Didn't really care for this. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't something I'd go out of my way to see. I like Kirst, but I'm really undecided on Justice. He's been rather lackluster in every match I've seen thus far.

Louis Lyndon vs. Benjamin Boone
- Meh. My thoughts on this are essentially identical to Kirst/Justice

Bryan Castle vs. Brian Bender
- This was just a cool-down match. It was surprisingly high up on the card. (It was after Bane/Rhino if I recall correctly.) Bryan Castle isn't that great in the ring, but his character is really entertaining. He gives me a feel of a Eugene type character, except he's not acknowledged as "special" although many of his actions could lead one to think he is.

-----------------------

Overall, a decent show. Gargano/Jacobs, Williams/Cross, Gowen/Iron, and Krimson/Mason are all worth a watch.
The Jacobs Pavilion is a horrible venue for these shows. They really aren't drawing enough to justify it. It kind of threw off the feel of the event to see more empty seats than full. Overall it looks like they did okay, but the hard camera made it look horrible.
 
#15 ·
Here are 2CW's complete cards for November. I'll probably post a preview or something a little closer to the shows.

November 22nd:2CWATHON

FOR THE 2CW HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP:
Isys Ephex, 2CW Champion VS. "Juggernaut" Jason Axe, Challenger
FOR THE 2CW TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP:
CK(Sean Carr & Kage), 2CW Tag Team Champions VS. "Innovator of Violence" Tommy Dreamer & "Extremely Cute Wrestler" Colin Delaney, Challengers
SPECIAL ATTRACTION:
"Mr. Wrestling" Kevin Steen VS. Johnny Gargano
SPECIAL ATTRACTION:
"Unbreakable" Michael Elgin VS. "The War Machine" Rhino
TAG TEAM ATTRACTION:
Dojo Brothers ("Die Hard" Eddie Edwards & Roderick Strong) VS. Punisher VanSlyke & Kevin "The Man" Graham
QUADRULPE CONFLICT:
AR FOX VS. Jay Freddie VS. Dalton Castle VS. Cheech
WOMEN'S MATCH:
MsChif VS. Jessicka Havok
SINGLES MATCH:
"Supercop" Dick Justice VS. "Captain" Nick Ando
SIX MAN TAG TEAM ACTION:
Electric Dream Machine (Guero Loco & "Studly" Steve McKenzie) & Zaquary Springate III VS. Bin Hamin, Peter D. Order, & Eric Mahoney Timmins

November 23rd: 99 Problems (iFFV)
FOR THE 2CW HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP:
Isys Ephex, 2CW Champion VS. Colin Delaney, Challenger
FOR THE 2CW TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP: TAG TEAM TABLES WAR !
CK(Sean Carr & Kage), 2CW Tag Team Champions VS. Punisher VanSlyke & Kevin "The Man" Graham
SPECIAL ATTRACTION:
Young Bucks (Nick & Matt Jackson) VS. Dojo Brothers ("Die Hard" Eddie Edwards & Roderick Strong)
WOMEN'S MATCH:
Mickie James VS. Jessicka Havok
30 MINUTE IRON MAN MATCH
Johnny Gargano VS. "Juggernaut" Jason Axe
NO HOLDS BARRED:
"Mr. Wrestling" Kevin Steen VS. Jay Freddie
QUADRUPLE CONFLICT:
"Captain" Nick Ando VS. "Handicapped Hero" Gregory Iron VS. Dalton Castle VS. "Scrap Iron" Adam Pearce
RETRIBUTION:
"Slyck" Wagner Brown VS. Cheech
ONE ON ONE:
"Unbreakable" Michael Elgin VS. AR FOX
6:30 p.m. MATCH: STRIVE TO SURVIVE:
League of Justice (Capt. Dick Justice, "Studly" Steve McKenzie, Guero Loco, & ZS III) VS. Hamin's Hackers (Capt. Bin Hamin, Eric M. Timmins, Peter D. Order, & AL-Qaeda
 
#22 ·
My Black Friday list is rather small compared to last year. Probably just the Kevin Steen Shows. Maybe an order with SMV depending on what shows are out by then, and if they have the Airborne/Sami/Ego BOTIs out by then. May make an order with Gabe if he's got anything "new" out.


Bored at the moment with nothing decent to watch, so I just bought the Video Download of Diva Diaries with Mia Yim as well as Ivelisse from Highspots.
Let me know how those are. I'm contemplating getting those but Highspots is a bitch for international shipping.

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I think I may have gotten over my unexplainable dislike for ROH last night. Was bored last night and popped in Ring Of Hardcore and enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would. Watched every match up until the ROH/CZW Cage Of Death (Which I only stopped watching because it was 1am and I had to work today). I may actually check out more of the older ROH shows/comps.
 
#20 ·
AAW Durty Deeds

1. Juntai Miller vs Lamar Titan
**1/2

2. Davey Vega vs Louis Lyndon
***1/4

3. Mat Fitchett vs ACH
***3/4

4. Zero Gravity vs Irish Airborne
**3/4

5. Davey Richards vs Sami Callihan
***1/2

6. Keith Walker & Tweek Phoenix vs The Northstache Express
***

7. Markus Crane vs MsChif
*

8. Samuray Del Sol vs Kyle O'Reilly
***1/4

9. Arik Cannon vs Jimmy Jacobs vs Mason Beck vs Shane Hollister
***

10. Michael Elgin vs Silas Young
***1/2​
 
#23 ·
^^^ ROH up until Best in the World 2011 was such an amazing company. It really epitomized everything you'd want from a wrestling company. Top notch wrestling, great storylines, fantastic booking, amazing crops of talent, etc. Everything after that can fuck off though. No longer a fan of the company.

Damn, that 2CW iFFV looks like it's gonna be hella long. But hey, enough of it interests me that I'll tune in. Although the two title matches look extremely meh to me.
 
#28 ·
I really like that Monster Mafia is blowing up. Though I've never seen them compete together yet, Page is the perfect douchebag/chickenshit heel and Alexander kind of reminds me of a Canadian Brian Cage, and while I'm not sure if she's with them in ROH, Seleziya kind of reminds me of Chyna. Except she's actually attractive.


^^^ ROH up until Best in the World 2011 was such an amazing company. It really epitomized everything you'd want from a wrestling company. Top notch wrestling, great storylines, fantastic booking, amazing crops of talent, etc. Everything after that can fuck off though. No longer a fan of the company.
I'm a strange guy when it comes to wrestling. The littlest things can throw me off. Bad commentary, or commentary that's hard to listen to (too loud, not loud enough, muffled), lighting of an arena, the look of the ring, etc. Really basic simple stuff. For the longest time I disliked AIW purely because their ring looked horrible. I think I actually bought Hell On Earth 8 after realizing that Eric Ryan played Kirst in PRIME. Took a while to get used to it but they're currently one of my favorite promotions and their latest DVDs is a shoe-in for my SMV cart. DGUSA is another one. I haven't seen a lot of shows, but every show I've seen has horrible lighting, or maybe it's the reflection from the ring. Looks really horrible. My mood also affects how much I enjoy something. Sometimes I just don't feel like watching something and enjoy it less. Maybe my prior experiences with ROH have been one, or a combination of those. But throughout the Ring Of Hardcore DVD I didn't really get that at all. The only negative I've experienced thus far is that the older footage has rather shaky camera work (Which I let slide considering it's age), and the ROH/CZW COD has no commentary.
 
#27 ·
Yup, Adam Cole's definitely in the hot tub.

Looking at that show Monster Mafia/reDRagon, a straight up Steen/Jacobs & Cole vs. a guy like ACH would make it worth a look.
 
#32 ·
So what's the indy scene like now? I last watched when Black was on top of ROH and some of the Steenerico stuff. I like some PWG action. I watched PWG Ten, Willie Mack looks to me like a top dog imo, I think he has a lot in him. Rich Swan is alright too. Who's the people looking to replace the Aries', Danielson's, and Nigel's of the indy scene?
 
#33 · (Edited)
Kevin Steen and Johnny Gargano are guys I'd consider to be "on top" right now when it comes to the indies. I think the problem we've been facing in the last few years are that guys are signed before they really get to the level of Danielson, Aries, Nigel, etc.

Anybody know anyone (reliable) who sells the Anatomy Of A Feud: ROH vs. CZW set? From what I can find, it was made by SecondComing but from my searches I haven't really been able to find much in the way of how to contact him. I know it's on the torrent sites, but it's dead on XWT and I'm not on PWT. I've asked for it to be re-seeded, but I'm willing to pay for it if I can't get it re-seeded.
 
#34 ·
ROH Border Wars 2013

1. C&C Wrestle Factory vs ACH & Tadarius Thomas
***1/4

2. Mike Bennett vs Roderick Strong
**1/2

3. BJ Whitmer vs Rhett Titus
**

4. Michael Elgin & Jay Lethal vs SCUM
***1/4

5. Eddie Edwards vs Taiji Ishimori
****

6. Matt Taven vs Mark Briscoe
**

7. Davey Richards vs Paul London
***1/2

8. Jay Briscoe vs Adam Cole
***1/4​
 
#35 ·
Rewatched a few random matches over the last couple days, tried to pick matches I've only seen once or twice.

CZW - High Stakes 4
Drake Younger vs. B-Boy - ***3/4

ROH - Race to the Top Tournament Finals
Claudio Castagnoli vs. El Generico - ****1/4

ROH - Final Battle 2008
Naomichi Marufuji vs. Nigel McGuinness - ****

WXW - 16 Carat Gold 2010
Matt Jackson vs. Nick Jackson - ****
Chris Hero vs. Big Van Walter - ***3/4
 
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