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Old 12-04-2013, 02:02 PM   #941 (permalink)
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B-Boy & Willie Mack vs Peter Avalon & Ray Rosas - **3/4
~ Solid opener, nothing wrong here. PPRAY had a good showing.

Kevin Steen vs ACH - ***
~ Steen seemed more concerned with jawing with the crowd, but ACH played a great underdog babyface.

Chuck Taylor & Trent? vs AR Fox & Rich Swann - ***1/4

Tommaso Ciampa vs Anthony Nese vs Drake Younger vs Brian Cage - ***
~ If you get in the right mindset, this was reasonably entertaining. Barking mad and pretty stupid at times but all four men went nuts and it was quite fun. Cage messed up Weapon X towards the end which hampered the flow but Drake was on good form.

Johnny Gargano vs Roderick Strong - ***3/4
~ Very surprised more people aren't talking about this, this was awesome. Had a couple minutes of downtime in the middle but apart from that it was full of high energy. There were a ton of great reversal sequences which were played really well, resulting in great near falls/close submissions when a move finally hit.

The Young Bucks vs Joey Ryan & Candice LaRae - ****
~ I swear Matt Jackson's dropkick out of the ring on Candice nearly decapitated her, that was mental! And wow, those last 5 minutes were incredible. A match where all the different dynamics just work.

Adam Cole vs Kyle O'Reilly - ***3/4
~ O'Reilly is having a string of great matches in PWG. This was no exception, although they went a bit overboard near the end (I think they should be protecting the Panama Sunrise as a finish while Cole still establishes his title reign) and I wasn't the biggest fan of the interference. But these two have a great budding rivalry and consistently bring the goods together.


I think this is another case of PWG setting very high standards for itself. It's a 'weaker PWG show' but is by no means bad, everything is at least 'pretty good' and the final three matches absolutely deliver.
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Glad to see I'm not the only who's getting tired of PWG's long, drawn-out matches. 17 minutes for a comedy opener is ridiculous. It's a match that should have gone no longer than 10 minutes. Also, when everyone gets their shit in within the first 5 minutes, there's not much to really care about afterward. The same can be said for every other match on the card as well.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:24 PM   #943 (permalink)
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Couple of random observations:

- Gargano's midsection doesn't look good, it seems he's not working out much, I mean he's short and that kind of gut would fit for a much taller wrestler, not him.

- I like Kyle in general, but he can fuck off with randomly pulling off those Nigel-type lariats, it feels like he's doing them just because, he gets some cheap pops and "NIGEL! NIGEL!" chants, and that's it. I mean, what the fuck already, it's not like Nigel was a guy that retired back in the 90s, and what the fuck is his connection to Nigel anyway? What gives him the "right"? Piss off, Kyle.

- Kyle O'Reilly seems like he forgot how to apply basic submissions, which is disgracre for a wrestler of his style, that armbreaker looks fucking terrible and embarrassing. Guys behind Taco Bell have better techniques than him lately.
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PWG was able to put on some of the best indy show ever a couple of years ago because they let every match get plenty of time. Their talent isn't nearly as good anymore now so we're getting guys wrestling 20 minute matches when they really shouldn't be working for that long. It's a problem now in PWG I will admit but it's still one of the main reasons why PWG shows always have the potential to be amazing.
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I finally got (some) of the PWG order I placed back in March. ASW 9, TEN, Is Your Body Ready, and BOLA 2013. Was really looking forward to watching them but as time has gone by it's kind of died. Kind of like Gabes DVD releases. I'll watch eventually but it's no longer on my priority list.

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PWG was able to put on some of the best indy show ever a couple of years ago because they let every match get plenty of time. Their talent isn't nearly as good anymore now so we're getting guys wrestling 20 minute matches when they really shouldn't be working for that long. It's a problem now in PWG I will admit but it's still one of the main reasons why PWG shows always have the potential to be amazing.
Ding Ding Ding! You use that format with a ton of talent and you get insane wrestling but if the talent isn't as deep it suffers. I would say I'd like PWG to do shorter stuff but in all honesty from 2009-2011(enough of 2012) they were putting out tons of amazeballs stuff. If they get the talent back and the format becomes magic again then fantastic, if it doesn't, meh I'm not gonna be too hurt by it(not saying anyone here is). Until someone takes the crown of "Best independent promotion" I don't know what would make them want to change things.I'd rather other promotions stop trying to do what PWG does before I'd want PWG to change what they are doing.
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How's Beyond wrestling? I've only downloaded one show (Americanrana) and I've yet to watch it but I've been hearing mixed reactions on the promotions thus far.
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Old 12-04-2013, 06:25 PM   #949 (permalink)
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They should just impose a 15-minute time limit on all non-main event matches, really forcing the guys to work a more steady, compact match without fear of dragging or veering into overkill territory. It's amazing how fast and fun a show can be when everyone gets their shit in, tells their story and moves on.
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I'm a fan of indy shows that keep things quick. Some of the early Evolve shows are perfect examples of that. Most of the under card matches would be less than 10 minutes and the shows were always really easy to sit through. Of course the early Evolve shows didn't have the talent that PWG at it's best had. With some of the talent lineups that PWG had having the show paced that way would really hurt things.
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