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AAW Path of Redemption 2013

1. Samuray Del Sol vs Louis Lyndon
***1/2

2. ACH vs Juntai Miller
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3. Colt Cabana vs Dan Lawrence
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4. Sami Callihan vs Shane Hollister
***1/2

5. Keith Walker, Lamar Titan & Tweek Phoenix vs The Northstache Express & Ryan Boz
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6. Michael Elgin vs Mat Fitchett
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7. ACH vs Samuray Del Sol
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8. Jerry Lynn, Rhino & Arik Cannon vs The Irish Airborne & Silas Young
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I was gravely let down by ACH vs Del Sol, personally.

Willing to give it another watch though. Perhaps it was one of those weird off key things on a first time viewing. b/c I still can't believe they had a match and I wasn't feeling it.

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Sami Callihan farewell set? O rly...

The idea came to me when we were talking about Sami's new SMV BOTI in the old thread, and I couldn't get it out of my head. I figured that even if SMV did use that idea, it wouldn't be complete because they can't use PWG/EVOLVE/DGUSA and the obsessive completest in me wouldn't allow that.



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Strong vs London announced for ROH Glory By Honor.
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if they couldn't put together a good match in PWG, they sure as hell aren't going to do it in Ring of Honor
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if they couldn't put together a good match in PWG, they sure as hell aren't going to do it in Ring of Honor
When did Strong face London in PWG...?

If it was years ago then the end result of that one shouldn't be any factor in what they can produce these days, which in mind could be awesome.

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Just finished watching Matt Striker's RFVideo shoot. It was pretty interesting to hear all these stories from his Indy days because I never really read much about his days before WWE. His stories from his days in the WWE were equally as interesting too. All in all, it was a good interview. My first RFVideo shoot I've watched.

Striker really loves the business and seems like a good guy, so I really hope to see him back in WWE at some point. Wasn't it rumored a while back that he'd start doing english commentary for NJPW? Or am I just making things up?

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So I'm doing the matches first here before I watch the documentary. I would rather not see a bunch of highlights of matches that I'm eventually going to watch. I've done that before and it's very annoying.



First Blood Match for the NWA Championship
Adam Pearce w/Stu Stone vs. Colt Cabana(c)

It's really cool that there are matches like this happening today. It was as old school as you could expect. I hope that this will be one of the many times I say that this was smartly worked. The offense of both guys seemed focused on drawing blood. I was a little surprised how short it was but I guess that was because this had to fit onto an hour long TV episode. Old school is really the only way that I can describe this. It was a lot of fun but it wasn't anything too amazing. You have the classic heel antics from Pearce and a solid face performance from Colt. I'm hoping they can pick this up a few notches as this continues but a solid enough start. Weird crowd aside the match really does feel like it's taking place in a different time period, and I don't think that's a bad thing in this case.
**1/2



Boston Street Fight for the NWA Championship
Adam Pearce vs. Colt Cabana

Before the match even started I liked this match a lot. I think it was the first show for this company so you got to see Pearce get heat from the crowd before the bell started which was funny ("If I wanted shit from you I would scrap it off your dick" was a pretty fantastic insult). It worked really well and the crowd was quick to be united in their hate of Pearce. And he capitalzed on it quickly by jumping Colt early, which also made Cabana even more likeable.

I really loved this this match. I'm usually not the biggest fan of brawls outside the ring but this was the exception. I think a lot of it had to do with the fact that the crowd really loved this match. I think I spent half of the match crowd watching because everyon seemed to be having so much fun. This was another smartly worked match with great control segments from pearce and some strong comebacks from Colt. If the quality of matches stays at this level this really is going to be something special.
***3/4


"I Quit Match" for the NWA Championship
Adam Pearce vs. Colt Cabana

Well the commentary matches this borderline unwatchable. The two guys on this match are legit some of the most annoying commentators I've ever heard. They screamed "Oh!" a lot, like after anything could possibly get a reaction from a crowd, and the one piece of shit announcer felt the need to say, "Oh my word" every minute. To make the experience even better their volume was turned up really high and the crowd volume was really low. This probably would have been a great match to watch if there was no commentary as they crowd seemed to enjoy the match a lot and there was some great character work from Pearce and Cabana.

So I was going to stop complaining but they've pissed me off to a new level. There was a spot where Cabana protects his head from a chair shot and the commentators take not every single time that he's putting his hand up at the last second to protect himself. This is a quote, "He's going to break his wrist from blocking those chair shots."

OK now I'll talk about the match becaue it was really good. The one thing that I noticed is that the demeanors of both guys are changing in this series. You can almost sense that Cabana is getting cocky because he's winning while Pearce is acting more and more desperate. Colt is acting more like the Colt we're used to until. As the match wore on Colt started taking it seriously but it's interesting to see how the records of each guy affected the way the guy acted. They captured the hatred here better than the previous two matches. Pearce was really good here as he wasn't playing a cowardly heel at all. He took the fight to Colt and seemed like a guy that just had to win the match. This is tough to rate because I know the match was very good but the viewing experience wasn't. However if you can get best the frustrating commentary there is a really good match to see here.
***1/4



2-Out-Of-3 Falls for the NWA Championship
Adam Pearce vs. Colt Cabana

Colt putting a little girl on his shoulder and then seeing here give him a huge after he put her down was insanely adorable.

This was a strange stipulation but a good change of pace as they had just wrestled 3 Hardcore matches in a row. Colt came across as really goofy early on as he was almost his usualy comedic self early on. If the score wasn't 3-0 in his favor I would have been annoyed but him being cocky and not taking the match seriously made a ton of sense. His demeanour changed as the match wore on but I loved his attitude to start the match. It was strange seeing them go technical after the previous matches. While the exchange wasn't anything incredible it was a good change of pace. Also they get some credit for doing something unique given the match type.

The last fall is really where this gets good. Pearce attackts Colt during the break period and takes advantage of the fact that he can't get DQed when the match isn't in progress. I loved this fall because it's proof that you can have an exciting finishing stretch wthout spamming finishers or crazy spots. I also now realize how great of an idea it was to have Colt go up 3-0. It was only match 4 and the suspense was already amazing because there was so much at stake. During the last fall, in theory, the series could have ended at any time. I think this is how a title match should be worked. I loved it, maybe more than the Street Fight.
***3/4



Dog Collar Match for the NWA Championship
Adam Pearce w/Bobby Cruise vs. Colt Cabana

So this for the same company as match 2, which was a huge plus as the production is solid and there is no commentary. This ended up being a totally different match in front of the same crowd. After the initial amusement of seeing Colt beat up Pearce and show the crowd how the dog collar would impact this match we saw a really long control segment by Pearce. Colt was bleeding early on and we saw a dominant, shit talking Pearce. While the last match they had was a wild brawl all over the arena this was more of a methodical pace that was kept in the ring. Once there was blood they stayed in the ring which, as a fan who has had blood stains on his clothing, I can appreciate the inteligence in doing that. So they had this long, drawn out, but very good, control segment that was all done to lead to the big comeback from Colt.

As the match neared a conclusion we got the comeback we were expecting but it was a lot less one sided than I would expected. There was a realy good finishing stretch where neither guy was in control for too long. Not the best of the series so far but right on par with what I've come to expect from them.
***1/4


Texas Death Match for the NWA Championship
Adam Pearce vs. Colt Cabana

The speed in which they managed to trash the arena was rather impressive. I think within 5 minutes they managed to knock down 3/4 of the the chairs in the building. This was a really fun brawl that featured another good control segment from Pearce. I still think these two are at their best when neither guy is in control and they just go at each other and we we got plenty of that here. Ending was a little confusing as there was a lot going on and at times it was confusing to know when the ref was actually counting. Really cool ending though and a fun brawl. One of the weaker matches in the series though.
***



Steel Cage Match NOT for the NWA Championship
Adam Pearce vs. Colt Cabana

A fitting end to what as an awesome series of matches. They wrestled this as inteligently as a cage match can be wrestled as well. I was ready to give it a perfect rating when I saw that the face was willing to use the door or that the heel was willin to climb over the top because he was closer to it. For the most part I always had the impression that both guys wanted to win by escape if they had the chance. At one point Colt sprung into the ropes as if he was going to hit his moonsault and instead of doingit he got a ner escape. It certainly added a level of excitement to the match because you never knew when someone was going come close to escaping.

This was also the war between the two that I had wanted to see the whole time. I think there was one low-blow from Peace but other than that, as far as the in ring stuff is concerned, he didn't really wrestle like a heel. He wrestled like a guy that had a lot on the line and hated his opponent. What was also great about the match was that we finallly saw the mean streak in Colt. His message in the promos was always that he didn't hate Pearce. And at the end we finally saw that this wasn't true. We saw the hate from him at the end it was the perfect conclusion to the feud. This was wrapped up perfectly as far as the feud was concerned.
****


Post match was awesome. Yeah it was all political but Colt cut a fantastic promo in the middle of the ring and really vented his frustration. The matches were great but after seeing that promo I can't wait to watch the documentary.


Overall I loved the series of matches between them. Maybe they won't be for everyone, I would imagine a fan of big spots would view things differently, but I really enjoyed the whole set. It was really refreshing to see something like this. This had everything that the independent scene is currently lacking. You had two smart wrestlers put on entertaining, for the most part, hardcore style matches and they didn't have to kill themselves to make them great. Only complaints are that Match 1 really wasn't very good and that the commentary for Match 3 was some of the worst I've ever heard However I kind of figured that would be a given considering I was seeing shows from 6 different companies and there was no way they could all be good. The matches alone would have been a solid purchase for the price of the average indy DVD. Can't wait for the documentary.
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The documentary is pretty painful. 2 hours of my life that I won't ever get back.
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Yeah I have to agree with you there. It wasn't very good. The part where the NWA politics gets involved is interesting but that's after like an hour or so. There's a really good story to be told but I don't really like the way it was presented. I'm surprised there were so many positive reviews out there.

I loved the matches though.

It's also worth pointing out that I'm a huge fan of Colt and I'm prone to overrating his matches. I mean he's the only wrestler who I purchased TWO t-shirts from. And he personally tied a "Cabanarama" headband around my drunk ass brother's head at WretleCon so that only made me a bigger fan.

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