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We all know that ECW was more than just hardcore bloody violence. They also had great high flying and technical matchups. But when I say ECW... I mean a product aimed at an adult fan base.
ECW wasn't simply hardcore wrestling but when you say you are inspired by it you tend not to be talking about being inspired by the technical matches or the high flying ones.

And I couldn't agree more with DragonSleeper on the "People need to move on" idea. ECW happened. People loved it. It was different and that was exciting. Taking a lot of stuff from something that was different means you aren't unique thus you can't capitalize on that cool factor. With Hoodslam, which Rooster you love, it is different and that's exciting.

Xcite has potential but they need to do more shows,which they will be,and they need to bring in a more diverse talent pool, using a ton of CZW guys isn't going to work if there is not a bunch else.


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I was talking about NECW. I don't know what you were thinking.

Also, I loved ECW. But people need to stop trying to be like that. ECW was great because it was first and innovative. Nothing can ever duplicate that. People need to move on.
You didn't mention NECW by name.

Yeah, I thought it was alright, nothing to write home about. Shocked about the 1300 hits. Happy for 'em though.

Here's the things about ECW though, and I'll address this with concrete too ...

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ECW wasn't simply hardcore wrestling but when you say you are inspired by it you tend not to be talking about being inspired by the technical matches or the high flying ones.

And I couldn't agree more with DragonSleeper on the "People need to move on" idea. ECW happened. People loved it. It was different and that was exciting. Taking a lot of stuff from something that was different means you aren't unique thus you can't capitalize on that cool factor. With Hoodslam, which Rooster you love, it is different and that's exciting.

Xcite has potential but they need to do more shows,which they will be,and they need to bring in a more diverse talent pool, using a ton of CZW guys isn't going to work if there is not a bunch else.
I get what your saying about not living in the past, but has anything ever been like ECW?

With the exception of ICW and possibly Hoodlsam I don't think that gap was ever filled by any company ever. People talk about XPW but honestly? That promotion had some artistic issues. Not saying it wasn't fun, it just wasn't ECW.

I do think that people need to move on but artistically, I don't think the ECW way of doing things has been tapped into at all these past 13 years.

Originality is always important, but the ECW mold isn't something that is easily replicated or something that people have easily replicated.

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Watched Wrestling on Fire. Great crowd. Not the best venue or production. Seems like a straight up wrestling promotion. Not a lot of fun stuff going on besides.

Loved it when the guy in the prison outfit scared that little girl. Haha, classic bad guy.

And always good to see Little Guido and Tommy Dreamer on the same card, speaking of ECW...

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ECPW 7-13-13 episode http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOW-g9UNNIg

National listings for Adrenaline tv http://www.ecpw1.com/tv-listings/

National listings for Wrestling on Fire(with ECPW) tv http://www.wrestlingonfire.com/telev...ffiliates.html
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ECPW 7-13-13 episode http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOW-g9UNNIg

National listings for Adrenaline tv http://www.ecpw1.com/tv-listings/

National listings for Wrestling on Fire(with ECPW) tv http://www.wrestlingonfire.com/telev...ffiliates.html
Nice. So are they becoming one promotion in a legal sense or are they gonna continue to air two shows?

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Hoodslam 12 wasn't all that. One match.

I'd like to see them become a more traditional wrestling show in the mold of Metro Pro Wrestling, but with all their craziness still in tact.

12 just had the usual street performer half time show and one match. Johnny Cage Vs Scorpion. Wasn't into it.

The half time shows should be valets in a storyline. Kind of like what they did with Matt Morgan and Kelly Kelly a while back.

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Kind of sad to see what has become of Metro Pro.

Mark Sterling on the mic?

Mark Sterling's tag team on the mic?

The champ facing off against people who aren't even wrestlers?

Four cheap wins in three episodes?

Jesus, this was better than the WWE not too recently.

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Watched the latest episode of Metro.Skipped most of it. Nothing was grabbing me. Heard good things about Jeremy Wyatt so I gave him a go. Didn't take a long to see that I could become a fan of his. I'm not a big Gary Jay fan, or Mr.James as he goes by in Metro I guess, but he's got loud chops and he's got some nice facial hair.


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Watched the latest episode of Metro.Skipped most of it. Nothing was grabbing me. Heard good things about Jeremy Wyatt so I gave him a go. Didn't take a long to see that I could become a fan of his. I'm not a big Gary Jay fan, or Mr.James as he goes by in Metro I guess, but he's got loud chops and he's got some nice facial hair.
If you say he's good I believe you but he has had such a weird introduction into Metro Pro, man. The Commission was already cool, I don't know why they needed a third guy. Just a random homeless guy, which is weird because they already a homeless guy previously, and a better one ...

And his first match in the promotion he's taking on the champ?

Ah well, I'm hoping the next episode can save it, they got a fun mid card.

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Not the best guy. Wouldn't even say good. I think you should know that Pierre Abernathy,Evan Gelistico and Gary Jay are a stable known as the Submission Squad so it isn't really weird to me. Those 3 together is a normal thing.


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Not the best guy. Wouldn't even say good. I think you should know that Pierre Abernathy,Evan Gelistico and Gary Jay are a stable known as the Submission Squad so it isn't really weird to me. Those 3 together is a normal thing.
Didn't know that. Would have been cooler if they mentioned that. Maybe.

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Last week NWA SAW, July 14th, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LEvt...2OCQDhCfiQgzZg

Vordell Walker vs. King Shane Williams for the NWA National title

Chris Michaels being Chris Michaels

The formation at one of the most dominant tag teams ever.

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