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Old 06-25-2013, 11:20 AM   #141 (permalink)
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Gage got into trouble because in part he was so messed up from wrestling and the lifestyle he led that he robbed a bank to get money for sneakers and to gamble in Atlantic City. If Gage goes back into deathmatch wrestling (because let's face it no one wants to see him wrestle straight matches) how long would it be before he slipped back up? Same thing happened with Trent Acid.
Sounds more like "desperate" than "moron" to me but I got your point and that's the main thing.
Now that you put it like that, I'm not sure if I'd like to see him back full-time. Maybe One More Match with someone like Masada or Matt Tremont or something and then move to work as a backstage worker like Lobo was. That way he could still be involved in the business he loves so much.

As sad as it is for CZW to continue without him on the main roster, it's better for him to be free out of prison and alive, than be in jail again or even worse, dead.
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:45 PM   #142 (permalink)
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You guys care to elaborate your opinions? I mean why shouldn't he wrestle? Why is he a moron?
I think he's proven why he's a moron. (you know, for my opinion at least) All trouble he's in is from matters he created.

Not like I was ever a fan to begin with. He was one of those random crap workers who floated around in CZW and I couldn't wait till they would be phased out for more deserving guys to be given the reigns to lead CZW in a better direction. Pardon 2005 & 2006, I'm liking CZW the most atm than I ever have.
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Old 06-25-2013, 11:04 PM   #143 (permalink)
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I became an avid fan of CZW within recent times. This company is by far one of the best indy companies. CZW is far removed from the reputation they once had. They've attracted such quality workers within recent times. I've followed CZW religiously since the start of this year. I mus admit though, if it weren't Adam Cole and Sami Callihan I probably still wouldn't have bothered with this company. But because of Cole and Sami not giving a fuck and their willingness to work for a company like CZW (with their reputation and all) they've made me, and I'm sure a hell lot of other people as well, discover other talents to become hooked on the product.

I found the CZW days of guys like Wifebeater, Nick Mondo, Zandig, Nick Gage, Thumbtack Jack, and these other guys from the early days sucked a lot and I mean a lot of dick. But I must say, within recent times, even the quality of their deathmatches have increased. During these guys' heights, it was pretty much nothing else but guys sticking syringes in one another's throats. I also must say, MASADA's work has made me get into deathmatch wrestling. I'm a MASADA mark. I don't go out of my way to look for deathmatches (actually I don't look for them at all) but whenever I look at a CZW show, I actually watch the deathmatch as well. Haven't watched TOD though. Still, CZW is has been so fucking awesome as of late for me.
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Thumbtack wasnt there in the early days.....
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I became an avid fan of CZW within recent times. This company is by far one of the best indy companies. CZW is far removed from the reputation they once had. They've attracted such quality workers within recent times. I've followed CZW religiously since the start of this year. I mus admit though, if it weren't Adam Cole and Sami Callihan I probably still wouldn't have bothered with this company. But because of Cole and Sami not giving a fuck and their willingness to work for a company like CZW (with their reputation and all) they've made me, and I'm sure a hell lot of other people as well, discover other talents to become hooked on the product.

I found the CZW days of guys like Wifebeater, Nick Mondo, Zandig, Nick Gage, Thumbtack Jack, and these other guys from the early days sucked a lot and I mean a lot of dick. But I must say, within recent times, even the quality of their deathmatches have increased. During these guys' heights, it was pretty much nothing else but guys sticking syringes in one another's throats. I also must say, MASADA's work has made me get into deathmatch wrestling. I'm a MASADA mark. I don't go out of my way to look for deathmatches (actually I don't look for them at all) but whenever I look at a CZW show, I actually watch the deathmatch as well. Haven't watched TOD though. Still, CZW is has been so fucking awesome as of late for me.
Also, just being harmless and joking around but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTTTPoxD1N4
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Oh just a little note. For me, I consider CZW's early days from about 1999-2009. Wasn't till 2010, till i really thought the company started to improve.
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How is a decade out of a fourteen year tenure even considered "early days"? It makes no sense even if that's when you consider the promotion got better in your own opinion.
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How is a decade out of a fourteen year tenure even considered "early days"? It makes no sense even if that's when you consider the promotion got better in your own opinion.
I know it sounds bizarre lol. What I should have probably said was that "CZW fucking sucked for a decade imo". Don't know why I even put in early days. I guess I was kinda including the days of the diving off roofs and all that shit and somehow got a little lost in my rambling and went off on all the way up until 2010.
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For what it's worth, they only did a roof jump spot once in their 14 year existence. Twice if you include the Ryder Truck spot at TOD 1. While I do agree that a lot of their earlier stuff was quite horrid, I think they really got better when they brought in the younger guys who could wrestle a straight match. Guys like Nick Mondo, JC Bailey, SeXXXy Eddy, Arsenal, etc. I think CZW just started at a really shitty time for deathmatch wrestling in general. Back then, most guys did deathmatches because they sucked at straight matches, but if you look at the current CZW roster, or the deathmatch scene in general there are a lot more guys who can wrestle straight matches. (Masada, Drake, Danny, etc.)

On Nick Gage: I really want to see him back when he's released. I love him and so does the crowd. I can only hope that he's cleaned himself up because from all accounts, I've heard that he's a great person outside the ring and loves the business. I personally think he could come back and work on a much lower scale and still be loved. Be the guy giving the punishment, and not take a whole lot. With that being said, I do see and understand the argument that he should stay away, but if he were to clean up and work in a way that does less damage to his body I think he could have a successful return.

Plus, he's the only CZW original left. Lobo retired, Ric Blade retired, Wifebeater retired, Mondo retired, Nate Hatred retired, Pondo isn't with the company anymore, Zandig shows up once every couple of years, says Fuck a lot, wrestles a match and retires again, and Justice Pain...Well, Justice Pain is Justice Pain and he fucking sucks.
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So it looks like there will be a #1 Contendership match for the CZW World Championship at New Heights '13 between Drew Gulak and
Tommy Dreamer.

Card so far:
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CZW World Heavyweight Championship
MASADA (c) v. CHRIS DICKINSON

CZW World Tag-Team Championship
BLK-OUT (RUCKUS & BLK-JEEZ) (c) v. the CATALYST (DUSTIN RAYZ & ERIC RYAN)

Tables Match
DEVON MOORE v. SCOTTY VORTEKZ

4LOCO (AZRIEAL & BANDIDO JR) v. the BEAVER BOYS (JOHNNY SILVER & ALEX REYNOLDS)

GREGORY EXCELLENT v. ANDREW EVERETT

ALEX COLON v. SHANE STRICKLAND

AR FOX v. BIFF BUSICK

Six-Way Dance: Winner gets a title shot of their choosing:
DARK SHEIK vs. CALEB KONLEY vs. DAVE CRIST vs. SHANE HOLLISTER vs. RON MATHIS vs. RORY MONDO

#1 Contendership Match for the CZW World Heavyweight Championship
DREW GULAK v. TOMMY DREAMER
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