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Old 05-15-2013, 07:58 AM   #81 (permalink)
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Thank you Seabs!! I came to this forum because I was told of the TCW thread-but have taken the opportunity to look through most every thread on here! I value every viewer and fan who chooses to buy a ticket, or a piece of merchandise!! I feel that there some factual issues with what some people post about our company.I post on several message boards,interact with our fans on Facebook and Twitter as well.I personally answer many of our fan emails sent through our website.I feel if a fan cares enough to contact us,we owe them the courtesy of a respectful answer! In closing-our business may not be defined as booming,but we are seeing stable growth in every aspect.The business as a whole is feeling the effects of the US economy,and the fact that consumers have a limited entertainment budget.
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Old 05-15-2013, 02:38 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Don't quote me on this but I have a theory.

This is 1 situation where ratings shouldn't be brought up, since if he has the time to defend himself on a message board to strangers, he likely doesn't know the actual numbers WWE is doing in Los Angeles or Chicago, as I doubt they are made public, only the overall. But, on to my theory.

I'm pretty sure the determination of ratings is different between nationally viewed programs and those in syndication. Because regardless, the ratings of a syndicated show will always be higher than those of a nationwide program. At the end of the day, it's based on the 25,000 households taking place in the Nielsen study.

And if those households are split across the country, it wouldn't make sense for a syndicated show to NOT have ratings higher than a national show. The reason I say that is because everybody gets ABC, FOX, NBC, CBS and public access, which is likely what his company airs on. Not everybody gets USA.

Furthermore, because you have more homes in that region with those basic news channels that airs his company, the rating will be higher simply because the number of households in that region that participate in that study. But, it doesn't indicate that you actually have more people watching, the study is just based on less households than the WWE is accounted for.



I'll break it down like this. Four percent of 100 is more than 3 percent of 1,000. But when you do the match, 4 percent of 100 is only 25, while 3 percent of 1,000 is 30. So, again, having a higher rating doesn't mean more people watch. Another example, your local news will have a better rating than national news. And I wonder why.


This is guy is wasting a time coming here to promote a product that, outside of maybe 25 people, nobody here cares about. I'll bootleg his shows and put them on torrents.
4% of 100 is 4. Not 25.

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Thank you Seabs!! I came to this forum because I was told of the TCW thread-but have taken the opportunity to look through most every thread on here! I value every viewer and fan who chooses to buy a ticket, or a piece of merchandise!! I feel that there some factual issues with what some people post about our company.I post on several message boards,interact with our fans on Facebook and Twitter as well.I personally answer many of our fan emails sent through our website.I feel if a fan cares enough to contact us,we owe them the courtesy of a respectful answer! In closing-our business may not be defined as booming,but we are seeing stable growth in every aspect.The business as a whole is feeling the effects of the US economy,and the fact that consumers have a limited entertainment budget.
Just some advice, try valuing criticisms because removing detractors is the fastest rate to growth. You'll never get rid of all of them, but if you can remove enough you're better off. You're not at a level.
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Old 05-15-2013, 05:33 PM   #83 (permalink)
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My mistake but that just further proves my point.

Drawing a 4.0 in LA isn't some major accomplishment, based on how many LA households are in the Nielsen study.

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Old 05-15-2013, 08:26 PM   #84 (permalink)
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There's no need to bash a promotion you haven't seen because a few of their fans were terrible posters.
I have seen TCW. I'll sugar coat what I think of it and say that it doesn't live up to the hype that all the street crew spammers give it.
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Never heard of TCW until right now. TNA went on the road and removed PPV's and that is the only change between them now and there years ago. Their buys aren't up and neither are ratings. Wrestling is in a down period and will be until WWE picks up. They control how well the business does wether you like it or not. When they improve everyone else can improve.

I would love to see ROH be as good as it was five years ago but that isn't going to happen right now. Wrestling will never die though and to even suggest it is ridiculous. I just enjoy what I can and hope things improve.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:34 PM   #86 (permalink)
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Never heard of TCW until right now. TNA went on the road and removed PPV's and that is the only change between them now and there years ago. Their buys aren't up and neither are ratings. Wrestling is in a down period and will be until WWE picks up. They control how well the business does wether you like it or not. When they improve everyone else can improve.
TNA could get John Cena, Undertaker, CM Punk and Randy Orton all on their show and the ratings would still be pretty much the same. Most of their low ratings and PPV buys has to do with brand awareness. Let's face it, Spike TV doesn't really offer much quality must-see programming. Impact is one of their highest rated shows yet they don't do a whole lot to get the word out there. The only reason why WWE did well on Spike is because they already had the brand name and people were aware of what network they were on. The reason why WCW was able to get such high ratings is because their financial backer was Ted Turner and they could put the show in pretty much any time slot they wanted and advertise it across a wide range of national and even global networks. TNA and Spike don't really have that. As far as PPV numbers not changing, they're only 2 PPVs in on their new format, so we can't really judge yet how it's going to go.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:39 PM   #87 (permalink)
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I totally disagree, if tna could get Cena right now, that would shake up things in drastic measures. WWE business would go down like crazy without Cena. There's no replacement for him or even close. Undertaker and HBK would both have to come back full time in major roles to stop the bleeding.
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:14 AM   #88 (permalink)
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If TNA got John Cena, Undertaker, CM Punk and Randy Orton the ratings would not be the same. They probably wouldn't be at WWE's level but they'd be doing much better business with 4 stars on that level, especially JOHN CENA.
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No, they'd get a slight bump in ratings from the hardcore fans but the majority of the people who tune in to WWE wouldn't even know he was there, because TNA doesn't have the reach or the brand awareness that WWE has. If TNA was on USA or another giant network like that and not a niche channel like Spike who targets primarily the male audience, it would probably be doing better ratings on it's own right now.

People always try to point to the product as the reason why TNA isn't growing that fast. I guarantee you if WWE was putting on the exact same product, same storylines and what-have-you, they'd still be doing their mid 3's for Raw and getting the 200k or so average PPV buys for their non-Rumble/Mania events. Because people know who they are, they've had a lot more years on television and have a bigger global reach than TNA. That's all it is.
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:35 PM   #90 (permalink)
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We can talk about the business sure, and a lot of you have made some excellent points regarding the financial disparity between the WWE, TNA and everyone else.

But I don't know, man. I'm a fan, I don't care that much about the business side. (As fascinating as it often is.) I'm just looking at all these options from promotions with regional TV shows ...

TV shows that anyone can watch on Youtube or the promotion's website.

And I'm thinking we're smack in the middle of a Creative Boom. Hasn't been this fun to watch wrestling in years.
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