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Were you a NJPW fan when NOAH was the hottest thing in Japan? Circa 2006? There had to be a couple of years there were NJPW was in the shadow while NOAH was the hot thing.
I got a taste of NOAH back when the promotion first opened as well as when ROH had a working relationship with them circa 2007 and liked what I saw, I just have no room for more promotions with ROH, WWE, NJPW, and possibly DGUSA taking up my time.

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I got a taste of NOAH back when the promotion first opened as well as when ROH had a working relationship with them circa 2007 and liked what I saw, I just have no room for more promotions with ROH, WWE, NJPW, and possibly DGUSA taking up my time.
I understand but it had to be weird being a fan of japanese wrestling and making the choice to watch the secondary, declining promotion?

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NJPW is my favorite promotion right now and this is coming from a life long WWE fan. To be fair to WWE, they're on TV all year round but the product in NJPW is so fucking awesome right now regardless if only I see their IPPV's.

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So far I've watched Power Struggle 2012 and I'm about to watch King of Wrestling 2012 right now, but so far im liking what im seeing and its every bit as goid as it was back when i was a huge fan. Power Struggle was a pretty darn good event aside from too many tag-team matches, I prefer 1 on 1 contests to tag bouts and multi-man matches and I think that NJPW does an excessive amount of those kinds of things. Even though most of them are pretty good.

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I like classic NJPW, not the junk that's presented today. They simply failed to move with the times last decade.


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I like classic NJPW, not the junk that's presented today. They simply failed to move with the times last decade.


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I've never watched NJPW, or any wrestling from Japan, until a few days ago. I watches Wrestle Kingdom 7 and I was blown away. Are there any English-dubs of their shows?


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I like classic NJPW, not the junk that's presented today. They simply failed to move with the times last decade.
Surely if NJPW failed to move with the times, the 'classic' guys you like would still be headlining. Okada's ascension last year was the epitome of moving with the times & their product top-to-bottom is the antithesis of junk.

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Re: NJPW as of late....

For as much as I love Chikara & PWG, I really have to go out and second, third, and fourth the claim of NJPW being the best pro wrestling company in the world today.

They're on fire. Have been for a few years now. Top to bottom a stellar roster. Phenomenal events consistently, the whole shebang.

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The guy has a point. Aside from the Laughter7 stuff, not much about modern New Japan links back stylistically to the days of old. Gotta give them credit in 2012 for bringing back strong style philosophies like more original, often shorter match-to-match layouts, less predictable booking and more mat wrestling, but even from the mid-00s has the game changed almost entirely. Tanahashi led/Jado & Gedo booked Yukes-Bushiroad era was all about safe booking to restabalize and grow the company. Trouble was that outside of Nagata, Tenzan, Nakanishi & Chono, they had no contracted veterans to teach the new generation how to work at the elite level. Nagata is the best of those and he's only 'pretty good' in the grand scheme of things, as he never had the veteran rub he needed either. It can all be blamed back to Inokism but the fact is that The Four Heroes generation kind of just did 'practice makes perfect' on their own, emulating a mixture of 00s NJ and king's road AJPW in a lot of ways. Tanahashi has never been a super worker, plethora of high end matches or not, and while Nakamura has been, he still relies on the formulaic tropes of the modern era. I find it kind of funny how that even though he's slow as molasses, Makabe is about as throwback as they come this side of MiSu. NJ is now 'Cool Style' as opposed to 'Strong Style'. With the influx of bandwagon hopper outside stars like MiSu, Kojima, and Tanaka, and the rise of the new (fifth? sixth?) generation, they have the personalities to get everyone over huge, putting on hugely entertaining shows. It works in 2013, clearly, but no doubt it has turned off traditionalists because the worksmanship is nowhere near where it once was, generally speaking.

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I've never watched NJPW, or any wrestling from Japan, until a few days ago. I watches Wrestle Kingdom 7 and I was blown away. Are there any English-dubs of their shows?
They won't be recent but YouTube search 'Toukon Retsuden'. Dan and Riki are fun and informative pro-ish commentators and they covered a shit ton, lots of which should still be online.





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