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post #731 of 2541 (permalink) Old 03-20-2013, 04:38 AM
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Re: The 2013 MOTYC Thread

there are a couple MOTY Candidates from me:
Tanahashi vs Anderson at New Beginning
Cena vs Punk at Raw
CHAOS vs Suzuki-Gun at 41st Anniversary
Drake Younger vs Sami Callihan at DDT4
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Finally saw NJ Cup Night 1

Ishii/Kojima is a MOTYC at **** for me. The middle lagged a bit right after the out-of-ring strike stuff but man was that finishing stretch amazing. Ishii is a true hero in Korakuen, and in our little corner of the internet. I am utterly kerfuffed at the fact that Ishii lost to a worthless piece of shit like Goto in the second round.

they could have had an Ishii/Suzuki match............just think about that for a second.

I didn't enjoy Archer/Okada as much as some of you did. Archer's control was truly incredible, but the comeback was way to quick, and the series of counters seemed to have no heat at all from the crowd. This was punctuated by a finish that fell completely flat in every way. Thank God the Rainmaker isn't actually gone: the Red Mist experiment has failed poorly. All 3 variations of the DID are more believable finishes than that stupid move. I can see why people liked it, it was just very incomplete in my eyes.



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Finally saw NJ Cup Night 1

Ishii/Kojima is a MOTYC at **** for me. The middle lagged a bit right after the out-of-ring strike stuff but man was that finishing stretch amazing. Ishii is a true hero in Korakuen, and in our little corner of the internet. I am utterly kerfuffed at the fact that Ishii lost to a worthless piece of shit like Goto in the second round.

they could have had an Ishii/Suzuki match............just think about that for a second.

Can we keep NJ Cup spoilers out of this thread until the shows have been available online for at least a few days? I'm trying to go spoiler free for the tournament. Cheers.

On that note, Day 2 has just been uploaded to Dailymotion so I checked out said Goto/Ishii match. Great stuff once again from these two, my favourite match from this year's cup so far at ***3/4. Michael Elgin should watch purely to see how Ishii does a 'kick out at 1' spot and make it mean something. Ishii looked really good here and was put over very well. Crowd seemed to be pretty firmly on his side too, which is good for him.
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Fuck a spoiler. Yes, please use spoiler tags next time.

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Re: The 2013 MOTYC Thread

Spoiler for NJC - Day 2:
Ishii vs Goto - ****+

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Ishii vs Goto - ****+

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Yeah, I'll go with that. One of the best matches I've seen this year. Everything about it was excellent.


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Re: The 2013 MOTYC Thread

Traditional strong style even? Hm... Challenge accepted. Brb.





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Traditional strong style even? Hm... Challenge accepted. Brb.
It's not. It's kind of like the Goto/Ishii match from last year, but with better selling. Still heavily based around strike exchanges.

Guys, strong style veers a little more into shoot territory in that it looks more like a fight or a human chess match. In that sense, the Laughter7 matches are more similar to Strong Style more than anything.



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Re: The 2013 MOTYC Thread

Traditional strong style, in a short sentence, means expecting the unexpected. These 2004 Kensuke Sasaki comeback tour inspired strike-for-strike mirror-matches are pretty well the opposite of that, but if you meant thoroughly good wrestling without the kayfabe killing cooperation; sure.

This featured the first good Goto performance since, like, 2011, and an extraordinary Ishii performance void of what was making his formerly underrated self comparatively overrated as of late. Off that alone, this was great. The early-middle of these matches tend to be a chore to get through but not here. Goto was fiery, expressive, intense, and did not stall or lag for again, the first time in a good couple years. There was much less waiting around than usual and they pulled this style of match off believably, smoothly and entertainingly. These things are usually so fucking cooperative that it can be painful but they made managed to give this the legitimate struggle feel and gave nothing away for free. Stiff without stupidity, mirroring without copying, transcending to epic and throroughly satisfying. Hell yeah. More consistent, if less spectacular, than Tanaka/Ishii makes this the second or third best New Japan match this year (depending on which Ishii match you prefer) under Shinsuke/Sakuraba.

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Re: The 2013 MOTYC Thread

New Japan was, is, and will always remain STRONG STYLE, simply because that's how New Japan calls their heavyweight wrestlers (like... WWE "Superstars"). The Strong Style term has nothing to do with a certain wrestling style per se, it's just a phrase. And people identified Strong Style with old school, (semi) shoot style back then. And they still do that, unfortunately. Stylistically, New Japan's present style of wrestling is what could be called the "Spectacle Style", something like WWE Style done right, something like old WWF style.

Anyway:

- Goto/Ishii ****1/2
- Yano/MiSu ****
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