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Old 02-17-2013, 03:46 AM   #441 (permalink)
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I'm giving it a chance this year.

Not every promotion can be New Japan pro wrestling and pump out good matches on their "lesser" shows from K-Hall.
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But ROH can't pump out good matches on their big shows either anymore.
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Have to watch Defy or Deny, but I'm not expecting too much from it. If the majority ends up being DUDs like The Hunt For Gold than I might be inclined to throttle back. Idk. I got time for them atm. It's no harm done. Except to myself.

Cole vs Jacobs was worth it...In a sense.
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ROH is gay anyway.
Isn't that a compliment for Ring of Honor? ROH has not been interesting enough to keep my attention for 10 minutes lately. Although, I believe I have grown as a fan and as a person since I was a spot mark and an ROH/NOAH/PWG fanboy.

At this point, NJPW and WWE are putting on the majority of great matches in 2013. Not that there are a lot right now. Expect Elimination Chamber to have two or three contenders. Who knows, maybe even The Rock will show up and try this time.
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Shinsuke Nakamura, Kazuchika Okada, & Gedo vs Minoru Suzuki, Kengo Mashimo, & Hiro Tonai ~ ***1/2


The tension mounts. Oh how does that tension mounts. The x-factors here for the now established CHAOS vs Suzuki-Gun program were planted in full. And very well. That's where the beauty of this 6 man came from. All of the factors that combined together such as Nakamura/Mashimo wanting to slaughter each other from the start & Suzuki/Okada teasing their eventual (and great) square off. What I really loved about this was the way both major angles of the match were working on different parallels. Nakamura/Mashimo didn't hold anything back. It was a knock down drag out from the very start. Stiff strikes a plenty. Where as Suzuki & Okada were much more hesitant. Working that ol "tease" for whenever they finally would work one on one. Which only aided in the truly wonderful finishing stretch for this match. b/c Suzuki & Okada eventually decided to drop all teasing exchanges and went all out on each other for a tiny bit. The flashes of brilliance were astounding. I still can't believe how well booked this match was in terms of building towards a bigger picture. That's what made this so good. Until I see otherwise this could hold up as my favorite multiman tag from New Japan for quite awhile. Lots of good gems throughout this affair.
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NJPW The New Beginning

Kazuchika Okada vs Minoru Suzuki

Really liked this match but that isn't surprising, look at the two names involved. This wasn't amazing since they clearly weren't going for 'epic' here, this was to build the feud up, but it was pretty damn great anyway. Good comebacks from Okada helped this, but the real backbone of the match was MiSu's strikes being clearly superior and the real deal breaker. loved the simple but effective finishing stretch, almost felt similar to the '05 (?) Kobashi/MiSu finishing run but obviously toned down a lot and with Suzuki in the Kobashi/veteran role. Okada gradually fading and weakening due to the strikes but still trying to fight was great and could be something really good if they play up on that in their eventual re-match/matches. Really enjoyed this, falls just short of being a proper MOTYC for me, but well worth everyone's time for sure. Okada fans will also mark for how fucking over he is. Proof that this guy needs to be the 'ace' someday because the crowd eat out of his hand and he comes across once again as a proper superstar. That's taking nothing away from MiSu who was also great and has another great match under his belt with this one.
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Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Karl Anderson
Thought this was great, I have quite a few problems with it, but there was enough greatness in there for this to be considered a MOTYC imo. That greatness mostly came from Anderson, but it was mentioned earlier in another review that Tana's leg work does indeed work as a way to create a weakness he can use to gain advantage of a match with when he's in trouble. I've been fine with it for ages now and I never see it as the problem with Tana's matches anymore like I used to. It's even better when the other guy sells the leg work so that it looks more effective and important when he does go for that weakness, and Anderson's selling was great. In-fact absolutely everything Anderson did was great in this match, he looked like he belonged in the main event spot for sure. Favourite part of the match was Anderson's control segment in the middle because he made everything seem important and subtly sold his leg at the same time throughout. That kick on the apron was SICK. The crowd was great in this, Anderson is so over it's crazy and it's all down to him. I was almost begging him to win here, especially after that video package before the match. He had some brilliant nearfalls and I honestly bought him winning off the second super powerbomb move he hit. But at the same time that's where my problem was. To me Tana was really bad in the finishing run, like, really terrible. He kicked out of three of Anderson's finishers, THREE! It was ridiculous and it really did feel to me like overkill, especially after the move I just mentioned. It was worse than the Okada match imo. But that wasn't enough to take that much away from everything else that came before it and a very good finishing run despite Tana deciding not to sell anything and being super-duper Tanahashi. If it had ended after the second nearfall and then had Tana's comeback it would have been fine for me. Overall it's a really great match though with a big time feel, and Anderson is absolutely superb.
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Old 02-17-2013, 04:59 PM   #447 (permalink)
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Negro Casas Vs Valiente (CMLL 11/02/2013)
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I'm surprised at how this was met with luke-warm reviews from other members in the Lucha thread, as this was an excellent bout from two fine performers. Even in his mid-50s Casas continues to make a grab at worker of the year, and pushing out MotYCs whenever he's given the chance. Not to be outdone, Valiente tries eagerly to disprove this notion by out wrestling the wily vet forcing Casas to change-up his approach in this match from out-performing his opponent to continually kicking Valiente's injured knee in a bid to keep him down and maintain control.

I loved Valiente's selling, too, as he made it as believable an injury as you could possibly hope for. I loved Vordell Walker's work from earlier this year but Valiente certainly outclassed him, too. Everything had purpose and, for Valiente, symbolised hope in the adversity.

Outside of its otherwise clean execution, the botches also added to the masterpiece. Why? Because life isn't perfect. While it's true that noticeable botches hurt a match, when its worked into it, and given meaning, it can also elevate the match and this was exampilic of that. Watching the two get caught up in the ropes and changing the moment into an opportunity in which a struggle for submission ensues was but a treat to behold and shows the quality of talent here.

Don't be put off by its "simple" nature and rather focus, in detail, on every perfect moment because that's where the match rewards you.

Rating: ★★★★ 1/4

IWGP World Heavyweight Championship
Hiroshi Tanahashi Vs Karl Anderson (NJPW 10/02/2013)
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My first thoughts on this was that I loved Anderson but I hated Tanahashi. Now, after a rewatch, I'm beginning to think the Tanahashi appeal has run its course. The more I seemingly watch of him, the less I find myself impressed.

While I could get around the issues in the wrestling side to Tanahashi/Okada from WK7 due to its phenomenal story-telling, there isn't truly anything to lean on here. His going through the motions approach really hurt Anderson's moment. I do think he's a good wrestler when he wishes to be, but it was almost as if he brought to the table what he needed to keep this a credible NJPW main event without having to push the envelope in creating an epic. Which I think is quite sad, as this could have been a blowaway if this match had equal input from both men and did not end so anti-climatically.

Still, Anderson truly cemented himself here, and showed he could step up to the plate when given the bat. The crowd most certainly bought that because they were electric whenever he showed promise of pinning 'Hashi. And I suppose that is what matters, at the end of the day. A top-tier division filled with superstars that the crowd are 100% behind and fully invested in. It's just a shame that 'Hashi didn't give Anderson his best in exchange for not giving him his belt.

Rating: ★★★★



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Man, that Tanahashi-Anderson match is getting REALLY overrated. Haven't seen their G1 bout yet but their New Japan Cup match was better and actually convinced me Anderson could win. This was just a rehash of it with Anderson busting out his entire move-set and two cool Gun Stun variations in front of a hotter crowd. The only time I thought he could've had him was the Crucifix Powerbomb because I didn't remember him busting it out and they set it up really good.

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If it makes it any better, I don't remember watching their previous matches so this was completely new to me.

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Old 02-17-2013, 09:38 PM   #450 (permalink)
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I think the Tanahashi/Anderson match was very entertaining but as far as stars go, it's just not that great. It's ***3/4 tops. This is not what I would consider a great match and a 4* match is a "great" match imo. Fun back and forth action but lack of any real control segment and Tana not really doing anything killed it for quality.
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