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Old 02-06-2013, 05:41 PM   #381 (permalink)
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This is where I am at now. Look, I have some non-MOTYC's here but does it really hurt anything? I apologize if it really offends someone on here but I think it does more good than harm.

ProWresBlog's Best of 2013:
http://prowresblog.blogspot.com/2013...s-of-2013.html

January 2013
Polvora vs Titan - CMLL 1/1/2013 - Rating:***** - Best Match of January 2013
Meiko Satomura vs Yuhi - Zero-1 1/1/2013 - Rating:***1/2
Shuji Kondo vs Hiroshi Yamato - AJPW 1/2/2013 - Rating:***1/2
Antonio Cesaro vs Great Khali - WWE Main Event 1/2/2013- Rating:**1/2
Justin Gabriel vs Wade Barrett - WWE Main Event 1/2/2013 - Rating:***
Cage Match - Kurt Angle and Samoa Joe vs Ace's and 8's - TNA Impact Wrestling 1/4/2013 - Rating:***
The Uso's vs The Prime Time Players - WWE Superstars 1/4/2013 - Rating:***1/4
Yuji Nagata vs Minoru Suzuki - NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 7 1/4/2013 - Rating:***
Davey Boy Smith Jr and Lance Archer vs Sword and Guns - NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 7 1/4/2013 - Rating:***
Prince Devitt vs Low-Ki vs Kota Ibushi - NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 7 1/4/2013 - Rating:***1/2
Katsuyori Shibata vs Togi Makabe - NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 7 1/4/2013 - Rating:***
Shinsuke Nakamura vs Kazushi Sakuraba - NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 7 1/4/2013 - Rating:***1/2
Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Kazuchika Okada- NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 7 1/4/2013 - Rating:***3/4
Pequeno Reyes Del Aire - CMLL 1/6/2013 - Rating****
Mistico II, Mascara Dorada and Titan vs Averno, Mephisto and Ephesto - CMLL 1/8/2013 - Rating:***1/2
Sheamus vs Dolph Ziggler - WWE Main Event 1/9/2013 - Rating:***1/4
Falls Count Anywhere - Big Show vs Alberto Del Rio - WWE Smackdown 1/11/2013 - Rating:****1/2
TLC - Apolo vs El Mesias Ricky Banderas - WWC 1/13/2013 - Rating:***
Austin Aries vs Jeff Hardy vs Bobby Roode - TNA Genesis 1/13/2013 - Rating:***1/2
Cage Match - John Cena vs Dolph Ziggler - WWE Monday Night Raw 1/14/2013 - Rating:***1/2
Natalya vs Alicia Fox - WWE Saturday Morning Slam 1/19/2013 - Rating:**3/4
Estrellita, Luna Mágica, Silueta vs Amapola, Tiffany, Zeuxis - CMLL on Televisa 1/19/2013 - Rating:***
Wade Barrett vs Sheamus - WWE Friday Night Smackdown 1/25/2013 - Rating:***
Adam Page vs Silas Young - ROH TV 1/26/2013 - Rating:***1/4
Torneo Cibernetico - CMLL on Cadena Tres 1/26/2013 - Rating:***
Rush vs Terrible - CMLL on Cadena Tres 1/26/2013 - Rating:***1/4
Last Man Standing - The Big Show vs Alberto Del Rio - Royal Rumble 1/27/2013 Rating:***1/2
The Rock vs CM Punk - Royal Rumble 1/27/2013 - Rating:***
Marco Corleone, Titan and Valiente vs Averno, Dragon Rojo Jr. and Negro Casas - CMLL Guadalajara TV 1/26/2013 - Rating:***
January Wrestler of the Month - Titan (CMLL)

February 2012
Team Hell No vs Rey Mysterio and Sin Cara - WWE Friday Night Smackdown 2/1/2013 - Rating:***
Mascara Dorada, Titan and La Sombra vs Volador Jr., Mr. Aguila and Psicosis II - CMLL on Galavision 2/2/2013 - Rating:****
Tag Team Gauntlet - ROH TV 2/2/2012 - Rating:***1/4
Volador Jr. vs Rey Escorpion - CMLL on CadenaTres 2/2/2013 - Rating:***1/2
Guerrero Maya Jr., Rey Cometa, Stuka Jr. vs Ephesto, Mephisto, Namajague - CMLL on Fox Sports Mexico 2/2/2013 - Rating:***1/4
Savio Vega vs Ray Fenix - WWC TV 2/3/2013 - Rating:***
Polvora vs Valiente - CMLL on Terra 2/3/2013 - Rating:***
Diamante, Máscara Dorada, Super Porky vs Ephesto, Misterioso Jr., Puma - CMLL on Terra 2/3/2013 - Rating:***
Daniel Bryan vs Rey Mysterio - WWE Monday Night Raw 2/5/2013 - Rating:***
CM Punk vs Chris Jericho - WWE Monday Night Raw 2/5/2013 - Rating:***

I still have to watch the Tanaka/Kanemoto vs Kondo/Hayashi tag, the new STARDOM show, some of the NJPW/CMLL stuff and Kenta/Morishima, but there's only so many hours in the day.
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So yeah. Mysterio/Cara vs Team Hell No was pretty fun stuff. Not a MOTYC in any sense but it's refreshing to see WWE put out a good tag match every now and then. Both teams being faces really helped the match. If we got more matches like this on TV, then I may actually give a shit about the tag division.


Match was kind of a blessing after all of the shite Usos tag matches I've had to stomach this year.

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Shuji Kondo (c) vs Taiji Ishimori (NOAH 1/27): ****

Loved this match and this is the 3rd match featuring Kondo so far this year that is worth a mention. He's had a very good start to the year.

Naomichi Marufuji & Takashi Sugiura (c) vs Maybach Taniguchi & Yoshihiro Takayama (NOAH 1/27): *** 1/2
ISHIMORI.

Might as well plug away at the majority of the NOAH show by the looks of it.

Still need to watch the Pequeno Reyes Del Aire match tonight too. Seems like outside of WWE Main Event my plate is going to be filled with some Lucha/Puro goodness.
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This is where I am at now. Look, I have some non-MOTYC's here but does it really hurt anything? I apologize if it really offends someone on here but I think it does more good than harm.
You're posting an enormous list with tons of stuff you think is great. I won't speak for everyone, but I don't think adding some *** matches is doing any harm. It's just those that come in here to rate the notable matches of a PPV when not even the poster posting thought they were very good. Coming in here and giving every match from the Royal Rumble **3/4 is really the kind of thing that set it off. At the very least you called it a "best matches of 2013" and not just "mah ratings for the royal rumble".
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He's elaborated that he decided to do his list based off by month as it is. So, without trying to speak for him of course, it looks like he's going to play his list off of every match from 2013 he found to be noteworthy month by month rather with a specific ratings cutoff like how I or some others are doing it.

Not a bad plan even if all of the matches on it won't exactly fit under the criteria in which the thread is originally meant for. I did a little plug for Sheamus vs Sandow tables match for example. I thought it earned that for being good, despite not falling under a "MOTYC".
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My favourite matches of 2013 thus far:

1) Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Kazuchika Okada (NJPW WrestleKingdom 7)
- So it's not quite as good as their previous encounters & the result pissed everyone off. This is still the standard by which all other heavyweight title matches will be judged this year.****1/4

2) Koji Kanemoto & Minoru Tanaka vs. Shuji Kondo & Kaz Hayashi (AJPW 3/1)
- Loved this even more on second viewing. Classic edge-of-the-seat tag team action with Tanaka giving great peril.****1/4

3) Minoru Suzuki vs. Yuji Nagata (NJPW WRestleKingdom 7)
- There's zero wasted movement here. Two ultra-confident, bad-ass veterans smack the tar out of each other & every little gesture, expression & exchange is loaded with significance.****

4) Mascara Dorada, Titan & La Sombra vs. Volador Jr., Mr Aguila & Psicosis (CMLL 25/1)
- I haven't watched lucha regularly since the early '90s, so this was a shock to the system reminiscent of seeing the Dragon Gate guys for the first time. So much jaw-dropping speed, creativity & precision, and not entirely at the expense match structure.***3/4

5) Titan vs. Polvora (CMLL 1/1)
- Again, I had no real point of reference here, but this had a fantastic big match feel & the deciding fall was really well put together.***3/4

6) Big Show vs. Alberto Del Rio (Last Man Standing, SmackDown 18/1)
- There are some things the WWE still does really well - a simple stick-&-move size mismatch, a gimmick match based around key OMG! moments, and using commentary to reinforce a story & heighten the drama.***3/4

7) Shuji Kondo vs. Taiji Ishimori (NOAH, 27/1)
- It's the oldest story in wrestling - Ishimori uses speed & spirit to fight for his life against the monstrous Kondo.***3/4

8) Prince Devitt vs. Low Ki vs. Kota Ibushi (NJPW WrestleKingdom 7)
- Mainly a spectacular blur, but with enough standout moments to elevate it out of videogame spotfest territory.***3/4

9) Jimmy Jacobs vs. Adam Cole (ROH Hunt For The Gold)
- Ten minutes in I was starting to wonder what all the fuss was about, especially with the horrendously dated commentary & criminal waste of talent that is Adam Cole as a babyface. Anyway, I should have had more faith in the perennially reliable Jacobs because this one builds & build to a cracking finish.***3/4
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Jeff Hardy(c) vs. Austin Aries vs. Bobby Roode (TNA 1/10): *** 1/2

Just got round to watching this, very good match with a very good story behind it. Great psychology and storytelling throughout. Some really unique spots including the whisper in the wind knocking Aries off of Roode's shoulders and the pinning combination to eliminate Roode. My only complaint is that the time between both falls were really short and it felt like the final fall was rushed to its conclusion rather than built properly. Match could have been better because of that but still a very good match overall.
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Seeing as this has been getting a lot of praise:

Chris Jericho v CM Punk - Raw (2/4/13)
I might be the only person who doesn't think this is a great match. I enjoyed it live but watching it again I don't think I'd add it to my list. Up until they started teasing finishers and going back and forth down the stretch the match was just kind of there and the crowd being SHIT didn't help it one bit. Overall it's still a good match and I liked some of the stuff they did. Thought they did a good job building to Jericho getting the Walls on Punk, and Punk being unable to lift Jericho for the GTS after being in the Walls was a neat little touch that I appreciated. Also thought Punk's counter to the Walls which led to the finish was good. It tends to look contrived at times but it didn't here. I'll probably give this another re-watch somewhere down the line to see if I like it more but for now it's in the 'good not great' category and lacking that little bit extra to make it onto my list.

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I have a feeling it won't hold up for me if I give it a rewatch. So I'll probably never do so to keep the myth alive. Yay.

Although I was highly into the match. So much considering I didn't even notice the dead fans. I usually notice that immediately and it often takes me out of the bouts.
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Crowd-o-meter rating is lame. Dead crowds happen and you're only cheating yourself if you base a match's success on crowd responses.
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Depends with me. If the match isn't excited and the crowd is equally as droll, if not more, it kind of sucks my life to care. If the match is quality and the fans are dead, then it's more of a personal complaint but doesn't have any effect on how the match works for me. IE Generico vs Callihan 2/3 Falls. Might be the best match I've seen worked in front of 100 corpses.
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