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post #291 of 2541 (permalink) Old 01-28-2013, 06:30 PM
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Yeah, I'm sticking with ***1/2, granted the general cutoff is ideal. That's where I had it, but I had to lower my expectations with recently recently so...

although a Joe Park match in that range is worth seeing.

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post #292 of 2541 (permalink) Old 01-29-2013, 02:28 PM
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WWE Royal Rumble 2013
CM Punk vs. The Rock - ****
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post #293 of 2541 (permalink) Old 01-29-2013, 02:36 PM
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I've seen a lot of mixed reviews for Punk/Rock and some are either underrating it or overrating it. I felt that the match could have been a little bit better and they should have stayed with the original ending or have Punk keep the belt cleanly.
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For me Punk/Rock might have hit *** 1/2 but its not any higher than that.

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post #295 of 2541 (permalink) Old 01-29-2013, 02:57 PM
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I thought it sucked:

CM Punk v The Rock - Royal Rumble (1/27/13)
I thought this could have been great, at the very least good. It was not. Off the top of my head I can't think of a more disappointing big time main event since HHH/Orton at Wrestlemania 25. It failed on so many levels. For long stretches it's slow and boring. No idea how someone can dislike HHH/Lesnar and then appreciate the injury work and selling in this. Trips/Brock is a far better example of two guys focusing on weaknesses and selling them well, and that match also had a lot more intensity and a better finish. This was sloppy at times, the table break (not their fault I know but still) ruined what was supposed to be the biggest spot in the match, and the finishing stretch was straight up garbage. It's more understandable now that I know they're having a rematch at Elimination Chamber but still, this could have and should have been so much better. My favorite part was Punk's expressions and acting after the lights out attack. Punk sold his knee injury well as you'd expect but why did he keep going for high risk offense? And he kind of blew off the selling after the restart. Didn't think there was anyway they'd have a worse match than Rock/Cena, but they did. Bad.
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Rock/Punk was decent imo, but only because of Punk. He was brilliant for the most part, good in control, subtly selling his injury until it got fully exposed after he went high risk, great character stuff as usual etc. The guy is great. Rock is where the match failed. He was gassed out, offense looked really bad, didn't offer anything to the match at all. He still bumps like crazy which was cool to see though. But yeah, the match isn't anywhere near past the ***1/2 range, probably not even that. If I could rate it on Punk getting the best he could out of a situation it would be higher, but unfortunately it needed something from Rocky and he didn't deliver in the slightest. It was going swell until Rock got on offense and then it fell apart, and then the finishing run was terrible which obviously didn't help. A spinebuster and elbow drop and that's it? That's what ends the title reign? Jesus. Punk deserved more imo, whether that be actually winning or even just looking stronger in defeat.
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Punk vs. Rock was pretty bad...a 400+ day title run ended with the peoples elbow, and Rock looked pretty bad in this match, and made CM Punk look just as bad, really slow and boring, some limb work, that didn't really matter, a 5 minute pause that served no purpose besides to give "the great one" a rest, and I was surprised he could even stand after how gassed he looked/ not even close to being a MOTYC...but onto an actual MOTYC, re-watch from the Dome show.

NJPW - Shinsuke Nakamura (c) vs Kazushi Sakuraba - ****1/4

I loved how the preshow promo really put over how stiff Sakuraba works, well I think that's what was going on, Liger seemed pretty upset(was the promo before the previous match)...but how can you not love Nakamura, he became my fave in a few seconds.

Anyway into the match, starts off with both of them feeling each other out, until Nakamura slaps Sakuraba, and the whole match changes, the mat work was awesome, strikes were cool, I think there was a triangle choke that I didn't like because Nakamura was right next to the rope and didn't go for it, but dat knee!!!! thought Nakamura was legit knocked out, shit I think I could go on about this match for ages.

The whole event was awesome, but only consider the above match a true MOTYC, (main event just didn't pull me in) I think I might be watching alot New Japan this year, TNA haven't given anything this year, and WWE got me excited but failed to deliver with the same old shit at the rumble, didn't even bother with RAW last night because of their booking, watched the hockey instead.

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Watching Punk's Best in the World DVD a day or two before Royal Rumble really put me in a sour mood watching him lose.

In the DVD you had him show how he's always been passed off as a champion who was given prestige by the belt, not someone who gave prestige to it (HHH's words, I believe). Punk commented how angry he was at the fact that he was relegated to something unworthy of his talents while The Miz ME'd Wrestlemania. That he clawed his way up every time only to be given a pat on the back or a MitB win with a lacklustre run stemming from it. Then what happens? He gets fucked again, this time so Rock/Cena can headline Wrestlemania.

Now maybe I'm being selfish (because I'm sure Cena/Rock will be a draw) but, when it comes to who deserves it, Punk shouldn't have been passed up yet again. And, as Bubz said, by ONE FUCKING ELBOW. What happened to The Rock that could barely catch his breath, let alone move himself back into the ring, when he said he would take the belt in a restart? One desperation spinebuster in (after Punk's signatures, I might add) and Rock's delivering the elbow like he has a still hot deep-fried Twinkie shoved up his ass. Absolutely no continuity in his selling and a slop of a performance throughout the match.

Call me disgruntled, hell, bitter-as-fuck even, but I cannot stand The Rock that's come back. On the one hand you've got Punk throwing creative promos at Rock (yes, his boxing with God line might have been cribbed but I stand by my point) and what does he get in return? Some Hollywood wannabe screaming "Snagglepuss". Rock vilified Cena for being kid-friendly and immature, but that's exactly everything that is wrong with The Rock, himself. He doesn't throw around good promos and nor does he make up for it with his wrestling. All he is is just that teenager that still giggles whenever someone says "tits" or anything remotely edgy and that's how he works his promos. The crowd eat it up because it's a knee-jerk reaction - "He said THAT on PG? Hehe!". It isn't clever, and it most certainly isn't fresh when he rehashes his insults every week. I can't help but think that we wouldn't accept it from anyone else but we do from him simply because he's The Rock. He's like the Kim Kardashian of wrestling, really. Pushed for his name and not for his (lack of) talent.

Where does that leave Punk? Relegated to some insignificant mid to upper card feud so WWE can sell their Wrestlemania and act like their product and stock value isn't falling? Maybe he'll win it from Cena later in the year when things lull over but for what point? I don't see him winning his rematch purely because of how Rock was booked here (Rock did not look believably beatable until The Shield interfered) and the fact that Cena won the Royal Rumble match and almost slipped up on Raw in saying he's facing Rock at WM instead of the champion.

This entire angle just felt like a big fuck you to Punk. He got everyone talking about WWE after his Pipebomb Moment and now when things simmer down they'll toss him to the side, again. That's their record with him (if you're going to argue its too soon to comment). Build him up with the longest reign of the modern era then flatline it with the most anti-climactic end in recent history. But it's okay because Rocky did it. A big name excuses everything else.

I'm sorry if this is wildly off-topic but seeing that match nominated as a MotYC pisses me off. The entire PPV was just typical WWE fuckery. If I removed my emotion surrounding the match and its finish, I can't see myself giving more than ★★★, anyway. It's totally not deserving of anything remotely near the title of MotY. It wasn't even the best match on the card. While Show/ADR may not be MotYC either (and wasn't even their best encounter) it was, at least, fun to watch. Something you couldn't make me say about Punk/Rock with a gun to my head.

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^agreed. Del Rio/Show was the best thing on a really bad PPV, and that match wasn't even anything more than 'good'.
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I think Punk/Rock was **3/4 max. Lacked flow, limb work went no where, wasn't exciting before the mess at the end.
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