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Old 01-12-2013, 11:44 AM   #161 (permalink)
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Did i miss something watching Show/Del Rio?

It was okay, no where near a great match

*** at best.
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:05 PM   #162 (permalink)
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Del Rio/Show was really good I thought. Some great stuff in it like Del Rio rolling off the apron on to his feet to break up the count after the punch. Del Rio seems to be better as a babyface because he can make good comebacks and shows intensity instead of plodding around the ring doing moves to the arm without any emotion. Show is great in control as usual, and fuck me he's so underrated still. As a babyface he's sometimes unbearable, but as a monster heel he's so good. Nothing that would make me call it a MOTYC or anything like that, but very good. ***1/2
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Smirking at all the people in here vowing to watch more wrestling in 2013. Happens every year, enjoy this thread for January and then we'll see you again next January.
i can guarantee you i will.

wouldn't be hard though.
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I downloaded Wrestle Kingdom VII after hearing all of the buzz about it being GOAT. I watched Low Ki/Devitt/Ibushi and I found it to be just fantastic. I'd probably go ****1/4-****1/2 for it and it was great fun for its entire fifteen minute or so duration.

It's going to be hard for me to get into this show (and Japanese wrestling as a whole) seeing as I have no idea who the vast majority of the people are and no idea what the storylines are either.
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:55 PM   #165 (permalink)
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Well, it's really great seeing New Japan getting all of these new viewers. WK seems to have drawn in a ton of new fans, the funny thing is it's not even near the quality of some of the shows they put on last year or the year before despite it being great.
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Everything you said about the main event is spot on. It's sad that you're not sure you can watch NJPW Main events...but please try to remember that most of the things you don't like about them are Tanahashi's fault. which is why him going over is even more stupid.

Okada's limbwork always leads to his finisher. He sells perhaps better than anyone right now. There are very few things he does for no reason at all. It seems to me most of your problems with NJPW main events are actually problems with Tanahashi.
Bolded part is excessive. It's more of a fear that very soon that formula will ware very dry on me than a realisation that it already has. That also comes with the same guy main event every show bar a couple for year on year on year. I still think Tanahashi is great at what he does in that role but this wasn't his best showing. The layout of the match didn't help either like I mentioned.
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i can guarantee you i will.

wouldn't be hard though.
there's usually a couple who pull through but loads who make the same promise and don't have the staying power.

Big Show vs Alberto Del Rio - Last Man Standing - Smackdown 11.01.2013
Really strong contender for TV MOTY that I'm not sure will be beaten. Two great individual performances on top of a really well worked gimmick. Really liked how they just got right to the bulk of the match with the hardcore spots and Show dominating. Made Del Rio's uphill battle feel more sympathetic and desperate. Show's an awesome monster in control when he gets the chance. Wonderful intimidating presence in control. IT'S GONNA BE A LONG NIGHT PEDRO. Del Rio's babyface performance was equally as great. Got over the uphill battle and the miracle of winning perfectly. The 10 count being stopped by falling out of the ring onto his feet was brilliant. The armbar over the top rope was brilliant too, both as a visual and in setting up the shoulder as Show's weak spot to go after later. Show's subtle sell of the arm after the barricade spot was great too just to remind people of the chink in his armour. Comeback itself is brilliant too coming off the fortunate opening. Thought it was a wonderful slaying the dragon type finish with Del Rio just going all out to topple the giant and take his one opportunity. Encapsulated the story of the match so well and was such a fitting finish with the relentless shots at the arm and toppling the table over to finish the monster off once and for all. Ricardo's awesome during this too playing cheerleader. Feels like a really big feel good moment when it finishes too. Fantastic way to get Del Rio over as a babyface. Managed to steer away from the obvious drawbacks of LMS matches too by not having too many long breaks during the ten counts and turning into spot - count - spot. Show's reactions to when Del Rio would make it back up were really great as well.

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I downloaded Wrestle Kingdom VII after hearing all of the buzz about it being GOAT. I watched Low Ki/Devitt/Ibushi and I found it to be just fantastic. I'd probably go ****1/4-****1/2 for it and it was great fun for its entire fifteen minute or so duration.

It's going to be hard for me to get into this show (and Japanese wrestling as a whole) seeing as I have no idea who the vast majority of the people are and no idea what the storylines are either.
You'll learn as you continue to watch.
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I caught some of Smackdown and just wanted to give out some love for da main even of Del Rio and Show. I just looooooved this. This was about the most emotional I have ever gotten for a WWF/WWE title switch. Del Rio has long been one of my favs of the new generation of WWE stars so this was terrific.

And Ricardo is one of my favs too. I really like their dynamic and am glad they didn't go the Virgil/Dibiase route (which was the right way for them to go back than) but yet solidified their friendship. Ricardo did a great job here as well and was a signifigant part of what made this match so terrific for me.

And Del RIo sliding outside of the ring onto his feet after being knocked out was one of the best moments I have ever seen in wrestling. And I have seen a lot of wrestling. A looot. The announce booth, the struggle and the drama all around that was aces too. I wish I never knew that Rio had won before this. I envy those who didn't know. It was also nice to see Rio celebrating in the crowd.

I had heard there were two punches by show but only one shown? Does anyone know the story about that?
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:52 PM   #169 (permalink)
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It's going to be hard for me to get into this show (and Japanese wrestling as a whole) seeing as I have no idea who the vast majority of the people are and no idea what the storylines are either.
Gotta start somewhere if you want to get into it. Watch past ppvs and you're pretty much up to speed. There aren't many story lines in NJPW, just matches. The main events don't usually have story lines. The next defense vs. Anderson is a filler defense (ofc everybody said that last feb and Okada won it so surprising stuff happens to).
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Old 01-12-2013, 05:15 PM   #170 (permalink)
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The match between Titan and Polvora for the CMLL Welterweight Title is definetely a MOTY candidate. It had everything and it was one of the best lucha matches i can remember. ***** for it
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There was an argument made against opening matwork earlier in this thread (and its boredom), but sometimes extended mat-based chain-wrestling can crucially pen the beginning of a phenomenal story (without its consequences reiterating themselves later on in the match). Such a take was evident here, with its game of one-upmanship being just that; two luchadores trying to prove who was the better technician.

The first two falls helped to build their tension but at a price of being all too reliant on one another to fit in their spots. They were meant to be crisp, flashy albeit short affairs to build the crowd while getting the two wrestlers at a round each. The trouble, however, is that it managed to succeed at doing the latter with complete disregard for the former. Titan takes the first fall after what looked like a botched front-flip, seated stunner into a modified La Escalera for the quick submission. The second fall takes an interesting turn with Titan successfully luring Polvora to the outside in his bid to ground his opponent via a nice monkey flip to the hard entrance ramp. This is, however, Polvora's round and it's not long before the tables turn and Titan secedes to Polvora's own submission. While I must say that I liked the strategy employed here, and the overall feel of the moments outside of the ring, I still felt as if it did not go anywhere once the fall was completed. Admittedly, most of what these two wrestlers did here felt underwhelming in the greater scheme of things; almost as if depth was sacrificed purely to throw together the required ingredients for a great lucha match. But following a recipe to perfection does not always guarantee a perfect result.


It looks good, doesn't it? But it loses its appeal all too quickly when you realise it came moments after a vicious abdominal stretch that should perhaps have had Titan's centre of balance (core muscles) at least somewhat shaken.

The finish comes off of Polvora capitalising on Titan's mistakes with a sick Rubik's Cube staying somewhat true-to-form in the story they were going for here - it's almost a shame, though, that the form of their one-upmanship just wasn't that up to par. No matter how great the finish, this match was too long and seemingly too pointless for what it actually should have been.

Seemingly despite these criticisms, this match has received some stellar reviews amongst many fans (with Srdjan's rating being the second 5-star I've seen being awarded) leaving myself in the minority. Perhaps I'm starting to miss the point of lucha libre but, in an already contrived environment, such co-operative spots do nothing for me, especially when they lack the essence of depth that other noteworthy matches have to them. Not to be that guy who reiterates an already stale cliche, but if this was assisted ballet, their interpretive dance piece would have possibly succeeded in what they were aiming to portray. It's just too bad that "this ain't ballet".
Rating: 3.5+
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