I can't win. You guys don't want to get my point.
Every wrestler at any point in the history of the business had to overcome challenges. In the PG-era it's a new set of challenges. You would expect that out of a a generation of indy-wrestlers who has been hugely successful in the indy-scene that one or two of them would impact the business. CM Punk, Bryan Danielsson and their peers are so far a huge disappointment in every business aspect.
I don't know that Austin loved wrestling more than CM Punk but Austin had the brains and drive and the thinking that made him a legend. Punk, Danielsson and co. have shown none of that.
Yes, and that is why Steve Austin is one of the greatest of all time. Do you honestly say that because Punk/Danielson don't compare to the greatest wrestlers in the sport, that they are failures?
This thread is ridiculously scattered now.
Independent wrestling came into prominence when WCW and ECW folded as people looked to promotions away from WWE for their fix of wrestling, I believe. It was around before in many different promotions but with #2 and #3 US wrestling promotions falling down within a year of eachother, a lot of independent wrestling filled the hole that they had left. This hole led to people like Brian Danielson, CM Punk, Samoa Joe and many others getting a massive amount of spotlights shined down upon them. If we didn't have ECW or WCW in the mid-late 90s, guys like Jerry Lynn, Eddie Guerrerro, Chris Benoit, many luchadors and many more would be considered indy guys, just as now anyone who isn't in Japan or with WWE/TNA are considered indy guys in 2012. Would we say in the year 2004 that the likes of CM Punk, Samoa Joe and Brian couldn't, in time, compare to Lynn, Guerrero and Benoit? I don't believe we would.
I believe that wrestlers today who aren't in WWE or TNA, or wrestling away from the USA, get a lot of flack for no reason. Today's premier independent star that hasn't publicly received any notions that they are heading to TNA or WWE is Kevin Steen. He had been a fantastic tag wrestler and has put on great matches, and now he has been a great heel recently and put on great matches across different independent promotions, this is what we want. This is what we had and what we want heading into 2013. There have been a LOT of great matches this last year and just because the wrestlers haven't gone on and headlined PPVs for WWE doesn't mean they deserve to be looked on as wrestler lowering the standards.
OP, and others in this thread, what independent wrestling do you watch? Do you just watch Ring of Honor and CZW or do you seek out what you can? There is talent out there but it's scattered about because there isn't as much need for something brand new as their was when the last generation of stars came through, unless you class TNA as independent wrestling, so we don't have that one promotion that is at the top feeding the wrestling need with the pinacle of talent available which in turn is filtering down into other promotions. Now, in 2012, we have a lot of great wrestling and wrestlers scattered across different promotions.