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Old 11-28-2012, 11:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys, I was just wondering what the life of an indy wrestler is like. For example if anybody had an idea of how much they earn and if they make a living by wrestling..

I have a huge doubt for the like of Necro Butcher and Colt cabana, if they can retire knowing they“re economically safe....

I know there are different types of promotions, but im guessing ROH probably pays well

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Old 11-28-2012, 11:54 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It depends on the wrestler themselves. I'm not claiming I know a lot, but I presume someone like Colt Cabana is a lot better off than you would think. Simply because he doesn't limit himself and his time to accepting bookings, wrestling at them shows, getting his pay and then repeating somewhere else. From what I've gathered from his podcast and other interviews, he is involved in a lot of other stuff that creates some form of income for himself - Whether that be the podcast himself, making a lot of business partnerships, his merchandise, his comedy and whatever else he may or may not do. Add all of that on top of the money he may or may not have saved from being in the WWE for a short while, his money from his ROH appearances and the other shows that he does, then I'm sure he's doing well for himself.

Or maybe think of someone like Kevin Steen or El Generico. Both play very prominent roles in the biggest independent promotion in North America, and are probably on the higher end of the pay scale. They also take bookings elsewhere, such as PWG and in Generico's case, Evolve, DGUSA, CHIAKRA etc. And even to their appearances at much smaller, lesser known independents, where they are probably taking up the majority of the expenditure that promotion has to make, then I'm sure they're getting by with just the money they are making from that. As well as selling a lot of merch, I would presume, and occasionally competing in Japan, Europe and wherever else they go. They're making decent money by simply wrestling, unlike Cabana who has other business ventures as well.

Then compare that to someone lesser known, newer to the business. For example, take ACH. Starting to become more well known and more relevant in the independent scene, but in the grand scheme of things, he plays a very small role. Probably has no merchandise t sell and may not be as appealing to the bigger promoters in the USA and outside of the USA compared to other talents. He probably gets bookings wherever he can, buddys up with a friend and travels the road together or as a group, sharing the cost of fuel and food and what have you. I can't imagine him living an amazing life and I'm pretty confident in saying that he certainly couldn't retire now and live happily at all, but he's making the sacrifices at an early age so that hopefully he can climb the ladder and reach a position where can do so.

Of course, I am guessing, presuming and assuming a lot of things. For all I know, Cabana may be scraping and ACH may be a multi-millionaire because his parents are business tycoons or something. But I guess that it all depends on the person, their business savvy, their popularity and their money managing skills. Those are the three best examples I could think of, but I don't think there is any way we could say how a wrestler lives unless we are wrestlers ourselves or we know them personally. It all depends on the circumstances, I guess.
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Old 11-28-2012, 07:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I would guess that the top guys such as Generico, Steen & Richards probably make £20,000 per year max. Then again, I don't have any insider information what-so-ever so take that with a pinch of salt.

Colt Cabana on the other hand is probably one of the highest earning guys on the indy scene in the world. With his popularity, he'll be able to command higher fees from promoters + he shifts a decent amount of merchandise thanks to his podcast. Then you have stuff like $5 wrestling and podcast sponsors to filter into it too. Then you also have the gifts he gets, they probably add up to goods worth at least 4 figures per year.
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Old 11-29-2012, 02:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
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If you listen to the Art of Wrestling premium stuff with Steen it does not sound likes hes getting paid well at all.
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Yeah, It depends on the wrestler, where he works, how frequently he works, and how 'out there' he is. Guys who do a lot of international tours, or guys who have spend time in WWE or TNA, will make more than a random indy guy who wrestles on the weekends. So guys like Sami Callihan, El Generico, Colt Cabana, or Ricochet will make more than guys like John Silver, tHURTeen, or Latin Dragon
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:42 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Necros not doing good at all. Hes homeles. As for Cabana I think he does fine with wrestling and all his side projects help.
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Shit not to change the direction of this thread, but whats the news on Necro???
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:55 PM   #8 (permalink)
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In today's world it's about impossible to live on independent wrestling bookings alone. Those that get deals in Japan are probably the best well off, they pay pretty good there even for the younger guys, especially when compared to some American companies. Most indy wrestlers are signed up with SAG for extra work and stunt work stuff like that, they are in a million things we never notice them in. To be honest I think one of the guys working the indies currently that may be the best well off is Shawn Daivari. He had those years in WWE had wrestlemania appearances and all that, and invested it well, but even without that the guy is so smart. He's into real estate and stocks and everything else. Someone in indy wrestling now has to do that. They have to diversify because money isn't going to come in in the amounts they need to live on when you consider injuries and general maintenance on their bodies just from wrestling. There just aren't enough indy companies and those companies just don't make enough money.
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Necro posted on FB. His wife divorced him, she has their kids, he got evected, worked Mexico, promotor said they couldnt get him a ride back, stranded in Mexico, thats where he learned he was homeles. He was in Cleveland a few weeks back working for AIW. So atleast hes state side again.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:37 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Necro posted on FB. His wife divorced him, she has their kids, he got evected, worked Mexico, promotor said they couldnt get him a ride back, stranded in Mexico, thats where he learned he was homeles. He was in Cleveland a few weeks back working for AIW. So atleast hes state side again.
Holy shiiiyyyt. Rough year for the Butcher. Hopefully the dude is doing as good as can be.
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