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ROH Final Battle 2012 - NYC, Dec 16 (DOOMSDAY~!)

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ROH WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP LADDER WAR!!
Kevin Steen (c) vs El Generico.

ROH World Tag Team Championship
Jimmy Jacobs and Steve Corino (c) vs The Briscoes vs Caprice Coleman and Cedric Alexander.

Non-Title
Adam Cole vs Matt Hardy.

Jay Lethal vs Rhino.

NYC Street Fight:
Wrestling's Greatest Tag Team vs BJ Whitmer and Rhett Titus.

Jerry Lynn vs Mike Bennett.

Roderick Strong vs Michael Elgin.

Bobby Fish and Kyle O'Reilly vs The American Wolves.

Prince Nana vs RD Evans.
 
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I figured Steen would win because Generico already won the 2010 FB match so you gotta have a little difference here and not make the feud so much more lopsided. Generico lost their first match at DBD 8 and at SDITS, but beat him in tag matches, at Hate: Chapter 2 (iirc), and in PWG at BOLA '11 and the ladder match while Steen won the tag match with Tozawa against Generico and Ricochet. Can't just totally bury Steen all the time with Generico.
 
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1. Michael Elgin vs. Roderick Strong - ***
2. Jay Lethal vs. Rhino - ** 1/2
3. RD Evans vs. Prince Nana - *
4. Rhett Titus and BJ Whitmer vs. Wrestling's Greatest Tag Team - * (finish looked ridiculously dangerous)
5. Jerry Lynn vs. Mike Bennett - **
6. American Wolves vs. Bobby Fish and Kyle O'Reilly - *** 1/4
7. Matt Hardy vs. Adam Cole - **
8. Caprice Coleman/Cedric Alexander vs. Briscoes vs. SCUM - ** 1/2
9. Kevin Steen vs. El Generico - **** 1/4

Overall: 6/10

Another great match between Steen and Generico and the final package piledriver on the ladder was awesome but even then, I feel like they recycled a lot of stuff from the Steen Wolf match. Still great. Everything besides the main event either sucked or was average. The Wolves/O'Reilly and Fish tag was worth a watch too. Otherwise, disappointing PPV.
 
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Do you know what should be banned from professional wrestling? Slowly climbing a ladder like you're a retard. It was so much of that in the Generico/Steen match. All the great bumps for nothing when those retard climbs killed the psychology.

Somehow WWE were able to avoid that shit at their TLC.

Caprice Coleman/Cedric Alexander vs. Briscoes vs. SCUM - 4 stars. Great high pace, action packed. This is what tag team wrestling should be like.
 
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I guess the two of us have nothing in common when it comes to watching wrestling. I loved the high paced, action packed tag team match while Steen and Generico 100% killed any psychology in their ladder match with all the "retard climbs".

You kind of have to shut your brain off during a ladder match. It's a rather ridiculous match if you think about it, but it's usually entertaining.
You have to admit some wrestler can get away with it. I saw nothing of that "retard stuff" on WWE's TLC this month. Generico and Steen obviously don't know how to work the perfect ladder match so far.
 
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I can't believe how bad Lethal's match was. Cole vs Hardy was cool, the best match from FB, IMO
 
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Holy shit cablegeddon shows up and in three or four posts knocks nevereveragainu right off the top of the "shittiest posters in OW" list.

Have you ever climbed a ladder in your life? Seriously, have you? You do not sprint up a ladder unless you want it to tip over. Holy fuck. This is the dumbest thing I've probably ever seen in this board. And that is saying quite a bit. I seriously cannot believe this shit. Like, yeah, sometimes wrestlers climb ladders inexplicably slowly, fine, when it's blatant I don't like it either. But you try setting up a ladder inside a wrestling ring and then climbing it as fast as you seem to want people to climb it. And then do that with fucked up knees. Jesus. Fuck off.

regarding the show as a whole: highly recommended if you suffer from insomnia. Watched the opener, thought it was okay but Elgin still isn't very well-rounded, the Truth stuff was lame and I'd be ready for him to fuck off if I still watched ROH regularly. Then the Lethal match came on and I fell asleep. I kept waking up and rewinding it, trying to sit through it but eventually I just decided it wasn't worth it and just slept and woke up at some point during Evans/Nana. Which was meh. Didn't really care.

Then there was a WGTT match and you know how I felt about that. Not that I want to be like "I told you so" but come on, I fucking told you all so 20 months ago when they won the tag titles after not having a single good match with anyone, and now it appears they might be done, two years too late.

Then I got angry at myself for watching a WGTT match so I gave up on it for a few days and then decided I should at least watch the ladder match. So I tried to find it and ended up watching the last couple minutes of the tag match, which was lame. Briscoes being champs again is an embarrassment. Seriously. Whoever is booking this shit should be ashamed. I just red repped a bunch of people who said positive things about the Briscoes and that made me feel a little better. I'm kind of a child, you don't need to tell me.

As for the ladder match, it was fun. Reminded me of the first one, with a less hot crowd and two less guys, which meant that the setup times for the spots were increased. Whatever, that's to be expected for a singles match. They got the hate across to some extent. Nowhere near their Steen Wolf match, but a fun time with a pretty cool finish.
 
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