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**Obfuscation** · 11-10-2012, 05:28 PM

Of course it is. But they know it's a draw due to their fantastic chemistry. Plus ROH is trying to capitalize on having them create a memorable, insane ladder match within their company. Well congrats, it worked for me. Actually give a damn about the Final Battle main event this year.

Would have shot myself if another Davey or Elgin main event happened vs Steen. (hyperbole, but they suck)

xzeppelinfootx · 11-11-2012, 12:16 AM

I understand what people are saying about Steenerico being done to death. And yes I know they also had a ladder match in pwg ast year but jesus. This time it's ROH, this time its a ladder match, this time its Final Battle, and this time its for the ROH belt. This should be amazing. As far as lack of build, I think the mask in the box delivery thing was actually damn brilliant. And truly all you need with the already rich back story. With Cornette being less involved and Delirious seemingly taking the reigns, I sort of see this as the beginning of the sway to how Delirious is gonna see the future. So it may seem like Lethal was shafted but honestly I thought the story was that Lethal wouldn't get another shot at Steen for the belt. Let Generico take the belt at Final Battle and Lethal and Steen can feud into the new year. God Bless America.

nevereveragainu · 11-11-2012, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hailsabin

Of course it is. But they know it's a draw due to their fantastic chemistry. Plus ROH is trying to capitalize on having them create a memorable, insane ladder match within their company. Well congrats, it worked for me. Actually give a damn about the Final Battle main event this year.

Would have shot myself if another Davey or Elgin main event happened vs Steen. (hyperbole, but they suck)

you'd think that the whole parent thing would be enough fuel for a Fight Without Honor rematch

EmbassyForever · 11-11-2012, 09:54 AM

According to this dude's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRPEexf9 ... re=g-all-u) review, Cole vs Hardy is offical.

**Les Kellett Lariat** · 11-11-2012, 04:54 PM

Has anyone told the "new matchmaker" that the whole U.S.P. of a Ladder War is that it's a tag team ladder match?

**Obfuscation** · 11-11-2012, 04:57 PM

More than anything I think it's a match that was associated with Generico & Steen right from the start. So it's fitting that they duke it out in said gimmick one on one.

Plus they've pretty much exhausted most gimmick types between them already. Seemed to be the next step in upping it.

**KingCrash** · 11-11-2012, 10:07 PM

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Its a fresher match, it contains the current champion,former champion and the guy that a lot of people wants to be the champion. Plus, I don't know for sure Generico going to be in ROH after this. Unless, Generico is going to make every tapings,ippv and house show like these guys I don't see the long term benefit.

It's for short term gain of course but it's about the only main event match they can do to get anyone's positive attention without suddenly finding a case of money and bringing in a liked outsider or making a deal with the devil and somehow get someone like Tanahashi over. Plus Davey vs. Elgin vs. Steen can't happen because Davey can't get another chance at the title as long as Steen's champ and Elgin lost clean as a sheet and since they dragged out the death of HOT they have to pay it off sooner or later.

Cole vs. Hardy is so meh to me but anything's better then Cole vs. The Boston Kidtoucher Bob Evans I guess.

**Obfuscation** · 11-11-2012, 10:25 PM

Wait, Matt Hardy? What the hell.

**Bubz** · 11-12-2012, 05:16 AM

Yeah, seriously, I had no idea Matt Hardy was in ROH.

Matt_Yoda · 11-12-2012, 08:30 AM

I just hope after Final Battle, Lizard Man starts thinking long term about how he wants to go about rebuilding his divisions because right now guys are all over the place and there needs to be clearly defined roles for the talent. I'll just hope that the undercard for this shows delivers.

Obviously I'm" looking forward to Hardy/Cole they can put on a great match if they let Matt handle the structure and pacing of the match while Cole provide the bigger spots.