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ROH Final Battle 2012 - NYC, Dec 16 (DOOMSDAY~!)

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#1 · (Edited)

ROH WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP LADDER WAR!!
Kevin Steen (c) vs El Generico.

ROH World Tag Team Championship
Jimmy Jacobs and Steve Corino (c) vs The Briscoes vs Caprice Coleman and Cedric Alexander.

Non-Title
Adam Cole vs Matt Hardy.

Jay Lethal vs Rhino.

NYC Street Fight:
Wrestling's Greatest Tag Team vs BJ Whitmer and Rhett Titus.

Jerry Lynn vs Mike Bennett.

Roderick Strong vs Michael Elgin.

Bobby Fish and Kyle O'Reilly vs The American Wolves.

Prince Nana vs RD Evans.
 
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#96 · (Edited)
GOD DAMN! This card seriously looks incredible. I won't be ordering the iPPV cause I have to work, but this will definitely get a dvd purchase from me if it delivers.

- Lethal/Rhino is pretty random but I think it'll give Lethal a good win over a somewhat proven opponent. It should open the show imo.
- Don't care about the Embassy.
- Bennett/Lynn is totally fine with me. If Bennett & Storm can have a few good matches (haven't seem them yet) then there's no doubt in my mind Lynn can do the same.
- Wolves/Fish & O'Reilly could be the sleeper match of the night. There's a couple different ways it could go. Obviously the young heels can win, then we eventually get singles matches and another tag blowoff, OR, the Wolves could pick up a big win, enjoy teaming up again, and decide to continue to team up to take down SCUM as the Tag Champs. Yeah, that gets my vote. Freshen up that tag scene while still occasionally give them singles matches.
- Strong/Elgin has been building forever and it'll be pretty damn hard for the match to not deliver. I expect some sick looking back breakers and Strong to win in heel fashion. This will eventually go into a Steel Cage, FWH, or something along those lines in the future.
- I love the idea of Cole/Hardy. Hardy as a heel would be totally fine with me in ROH. I didn't mind his run in TNA a couple years back and this could be somewhat similar to his match with AJ Styles. Another sleeper match that could definitely deliver.
- NYC Street Fight could be fun and should be a bloodbath. Whitmer & Titus in the same match, some bladejobs have to go down, right?
- I don't know what to expect out of the Tag Title match. It's the question mark on the night.
- Main Event will fucking rock our socks off. Anything less will be a disappointment.

Needless to say, this HAS to be better than last year's shitbag they called "Final Battle." Period.


OH, I forgot to say, I think Generico needs to win. Mainly so we can get some fresh Title matches with Generico actually winning big matches. Obvious one is a match with Lethal down the line, plus I could also see a 3-way with both Lethal & Steen. Those two need to settle their differences anyway, so Generico could still have some great defenses against Eddie, Roddy, Davey(?), Rhino, dare I say Matt Hardy, before eventually losing the title to Elgin. BOOK IT!
 
#31 ·
Of course it is. But they know it's a draw due to their fantastic chemistry. Plus ROH is trying to capitalize on having them create a memorable, insane ladder match within their company. Well congrats, it worked for me. Actually give a damn about the Final Battle main event this year.

Would have shot myself if another Davey or Elgin main event happened vs Steen. (hyperbole, but they suck)
 
#33 ·
you'd think that the whole parent thing would be enough fuel for a Fight Without Honor rematch
 
#74 ·
this card looks like it has some purpose behind it so whatever I guess
might watch it, which would make it the first ROH show I've watched in half a year
there's a bunch of guys who don't suck but bar the main event every match has someone who sucks in it. at least they're bringing in Bobby Fish I guess?

Steen/Generico should be good but am I the only one who's tired of ROH doing things that have already been done (and done better) in PWG? funny how it's gotten to that point I guess.
 
#92 ·
Pretty telling that I have no memory of last year's Final Battle outside of the stuff with Steen.

Really hard to believe Steen and Generico could ever top their Ladder War in PWG. In fact, that's just a scary thought to think they'd even try.

People used to nag at TNA for running through angles too quickly, but I have the exact opposite complaint of ROH. The blow-off to Steen-Generico, the Wolves reunion, Elgin-Roddy...all should've happened way earlier. WGTT should have put over every team by now and moved on to greener pastures. Jerry Lynn's retirement should've been in 09-10 when they had the angle with Kenny King. Mike Bennett should totally have won the World title within his first year. Okay, maybe not the last one.

also lol @ prince nana still hanging around
embassy forever
 
#98 ·
I think Roddy vs. Elgin could be the show stealer. I would be all over Generico vs. Steen, however they didn't really build it up at all. I think Elgin and Roddy will throw the sink at each other.

Yes, i agree the Rhyno vs. Lethal seems totally thrown together, same as the 3 way, Lynn/Bennett and Hardy/Cole although i haven't paid too close of attention to the shows lately.

I think this about of card as ROH could have put on at this point with the roster they have. I think it will be a good show. And i hope lethal stays AWAY from the main event.
 
#156 · (Edited)
bought it. this is ROH's final chance before the promotion is dead to me. if it wasn't for Steen/Generico i'd have definitely passed on the show. undercard is decent enough though. looking forward to Roddy/Elgin, Hardy/Cole, the tag title match and Bennett/Lynn.

also like Fish and Eddie so the tag match could be ok. Kyle and Davey can fuck off though. their little promo building the match was so homoerotic. they both need to just get married and move to Japan so i never have to see them or hear their annoying voices again.
 
#235 ·
Holy shit cablegeddon shows up and in three or four posts knocks nevereveragainu right off the top of the "shittiest posters in OW" list.

Have you ever climbed a ladder in your life? Seriously, have you? You do not sprint up a ladder unless you want it to tip over. Holy fuck. This is the dumbest thing I've probably ever seen in this board. And that is saying quite a bit. I seriously cannot believe this shit. Like, yeah, sometimes wrestlers climb ladders inexplicably slowly, fine, when it's blatant I don't like it either. But you try setting up a ladder inside a wrestling ring and then climbing it as fast as you seem to want people to climb it. And then do that with fucked up knees. Jesus. Fuck off.

regarding the show as a whole: highly recommended if you suffer from insomnia. Watched the opener, thought it was okay but Elgin still isn't very well-rounded, the Truth stuff was lame and I'd be ready for him to fuck off if I still watched ROH regularly. Then the Lethal match came on and I fell asleep. I kept waking up and rewinding it, trying to sit through it but eventually I just decided it wasn't worth it and just slept and woke up at some point during Evans/Nana. Which was meh. Didn't really care.

Then there was a WGTT match and you know how I felt about that. Not that I want to be like "I told you so" but come on, I fucking told you all so 20 months ago when they won the tag titles after not having a single good match with anyone, and now it appears they might be done, two years too late.

Then I got angry at myself for watching a WGTT match so I gave up on it for a few days and then decided I should at least watch the ladder match. So I tried to find it and ended up watching the last couple minutes of the tag match, which was lame. Briscoes being champs again is an embarrassment. Seriously. Whoever is booking this shit should be ashamed. I just red repped a bunch of people who said positive things about the Briscoes and that made me feel a little better. I'm kind of a child, you don't need to tell me.

As for the ladder match, it was fun. Reminded me of the first one, with a less hot crowd and two less guys, which meant that the setup times for the spots were increased. Whatever, that's to be expected for a singles match. They got the hate across to some extent. Nowhere near their Steen Wolf match, but a fun time with a pretty cool finish.
 
#2 ·
I'm excited for Generico VS Steen for sure. I'm not a massive ROH fan, but a fan of their story and both of them. Should be cool. I especially like their most recent stuff at PWG BOLA 2012.

Couldn't say I care for the rest of the card, although I expect some decent matches.
 
#4 ·
While I've stated how I feel about Steenerico, it'll still probably be a good match. The triple threat tag match (I thought that was in the TV spoilers) should be fun and if I get Elgin/Roddy + Wolves/O'Reilly & Fish or any combo of the 4 it'll be a definite buy. I wonder what they'll do with Lethal since Steen is tied up with Generico now.
 
#5 ·
What's the story behind the Wolves reunion? It sucks, tbh, I wanted to see an Edwards singles match, he's really good this year.

Btw, I used to think no one will able to top the Ladder Match from Steen Wolf, but the Threemendous III tag did it. And if anyone can top them, it's Steen and Generico.
 
#6 ·
After all the sick bumps Steen and Generico take every time they face each other, I'm kind afraid of what they might do this time. Their ladder match in PWG was amazing but had some of the dumbest/dangerous spots I've ever seen for a non deathmatch, if they try to surpass that then someone's gonna get legit hurt.

Still, I'm a sick bastard so I can't wait to see the match.
 
#7 ·
Am I the only one who thinks they're heading to Davey/Cole vs Kyle/Fish rather than Davey/Eddie. There's still the Cole/Kyle feud and wasn't Davey on commentary during Cole's match. That team seems more likely to me than a random Wolves reunion just because. They'll probably just put Edwards in a special attraction singles match with another guy who's got nothing to do like Lethal or maybe Lynn. I guess Cole should be defending the TV belt but what challenger have they built up besides O'Reilly?
 
#8 ·
Well on tv they had Matt Hardy on in an interview so between that and Lynn getting his "last match" Cole might be busy. And from whoever is left on the roster and the storylines they're doing (Elgin/Strong, Titus/Whitmer vs. World's Shittest Tag Team) there's not a lot to choose from for an Eddie singles match. Plus it'd finally give Eddie something to do other then special attraction match guy or feuding with Bennett forever. Since I don't see Bennett on here maybe he goes after Lynn.
 
#9 ·
A wrestler of Eddie's calibur does not deserve to keep getting thrown in throwaway "special attraction" matches every iPPV. For a guy that had a short hot streak as World Champion, you wouldn't know it from the way they've booked him this year and this is coming from someone who enjoyed the hell out of the Eddie/Bennett feud.
 
#10 ·
For some strange reason, I have a feeling that Jay Lethal will come out in an El Generico mask and face Kevin Steen. I know its a stretch, and probablya ridiculous statement to make but Lethal has stated that he will be cashing in his Survival of the Fittest title shot at Final Battle regardless if he is in the main event or not....
 
#11 ·
If that happened ROH would have to get ready to give some refunds because that would piss off so many people it wouldn't even be funny. But here is what I think of things so far.

Generico vs. Steen is,with the roster they have right now and the momentum each wrestler has, is the best match they could put on. Even though this match has been done plenty of times before and it isn't even their first ladder match it should be good. Unless they try really hard to top Steen Wolf and someone dies that is. I think this is the first time a singles ladder match has happened in ROH so I guess that's something.

The three-way tag for the titles at least doesn't involve WGTT so that is something. I actually like all 3-teams so I like it and glad they are mixing in C&C to this. The tag division needs some fresh blood.

Elgin vs. Strong has to happen at somepoint. Everyone has seen this coming to a point and it might as well happen at ROH's biggest show of the year. People are high on Elgin right now and Strong never seems to get the love I think he deserves. He might not be the guy I want to see on the mic but there aren't a ton of indy guys I'd rather see in the ring.

The possible American Wolves reunion has got me giddy. I know people here don't really like Davey's work, and to be honest I use to me pretty okay with him but recently I just can't do it anymore, but I always enjoyed him and Eddie together. Going against O'Reilly and Fish kind of scares me but hopefully things work out here and doesn't just break down to a kick-fest.

Jerry Lynn returning for one night only works for me. He is a former champ and he is going to to be retiring soon so giving him one last time to do his thing seems like a real nice idea (Plus I find it hard to dislike Jerry just as a person).

Someone mentioning Matt Hardy vs. Cole could work to help solidify Cole even more if Hardy shows up with his working boots. Rhino vs. Lethal doesn't make me want to hurt myself. And I heard something about WGTT vs. Rhett Titus/ BJ Whitmer which even if there is a stip I couldn't get excited for. Oh and if they treat SOTF as a MITB sort of thing I will flip out if he walks out the champ simply because I know Steen and Generico are going to kill each other and that his how this show needs to end.
 
#15 ·

Coming off his announcement of Steen/Generico in Ladder War IV, ROH Match Maker Nigel McGuinness also declared that Steve Corino & Jimmy Jacobs would defend the World Tag Team Titles at “Final Battle 2012” live on iPPV!

But, as was the case at “Killer Instinct”, they will not be facing just one team in this championship bout, they will be facing two teams trying to pry the belts from S.C.U.M's grasp!

The first team is one very familiar to tag team championship success, seven times over for that matter, and they are the men who rallied the locker room at the last TV Tapings in the first place, the ones who brought Nigel McGuinness' name to the table in the first place, Jay & Mark Briscoe! At “Glory by Honor XI”, Corino & Jacobs screwed Dem Boys out of capturing their 8th titles when Steve low blowed Jay after shoving the referee into the ropes and knocking Mark out of the Doomsday Device attempt. Aside from that unfortunate blip on their record, Jay & Mark have pretty much run the table in their bouts with S.C.U.M over the last few months, in particular the Cage Match at “Caged Hostility”, will this bout prove another case of Briscoe dominance?

The second team is another one with whom Corino & Jacobs are quite familiar now. Caprice Coleman & Cedric Alexander were the team that S.C.U.M defeated at “Death Before Dishonor X” to advance to the finals of the tag title tournament. They were also another duo that got screwed in a tag title bout when Corino got caught hitting Caprice with a roll of quarters on the 10/6/12 edition of “Ring of Honor Wrestling” TV and drew a disqualification, allowing he & Jacobs to retain the titles.

Now both teams will have their opportunity to end the reign of Corino & Jacobs, to weaken the foundation of S.C.U.M prior to the World Title Ladder War, but it's not the first time Steve & Jimmy have defied the odds, just look at their defense at the aforementioned “Killer Instinct” event where they retained against both WGTT and Rhett Titus/BJ Whitmer. You must tune into ROH TV starting on November 17th to see how this all played out!!!

Could Sunday December 16th mark doomsday for S.C.U.M or will it be another step in their quest to decimate ROH? Be there live to see for yourself or order it on iPPV right here to see all the action as it happens from the comfort of your home!
 
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