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just1988 · 11-27-2012, 10:16 AM

Looks like a decent card but I'm not really that arsed about seeing any of the matches apart from Steen/Generico to be honest.

peachchaos · 11-27-2012, 02:55 PM

Pretty telling that I have no memory of last year's Final Battle outside of the stuff with Steen.

Really hard to believe Steen and Generico could ever top their Ladder War in PWG. In fact, that's just a scary thought to think they'd even try.

People used to nag at TNA for running through angles too quickly, but I have the exact opposite complaint of ROH. The blow-off to Steen-Generico, the Wolves reunion, Elgin-Roddy...all should've happened way earlier. WGTT should have put over every team by now and moved on to greener pastures. Jerry Lynn's retirement should've been in 09-10 when they had the angle with Kenny King. Mike Bennett should totally have won the World title within his first year. Okay, maybe not the last one.

also lol @ prince nana still hanging around
embassy forever

**Obfuscation** · 11-28-2012, 02:39 AM

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Doesn't Lethal/Rhino just seem like a match thrown together with two guys who had nothing going on?

Yep.

It has appeal for me though. More than all of the tag team affairs + comedy match.

**ceeder** · 11-28-2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hailsabin

Yep.

It has appeal for me though. More than all of the tag team affairs + comedy match.

Briscoes thrown into the tag title match puts me off of it, although I have loved Jacob's work this year and C&C keep getting better. WBTT and BJ Express will suck, no doubt. I disagree with you on Wolves/Fish+KORy, though, provided it doesn't turn into a 20 minue kickfest. Potential is there, although some of the heat is gone with Eddie's recent schedule.

Strong/Elgin is likely my second favourite match on the card after Steenerico.

Matt_Yoda · 11-28-2012, 07:18 PM

Charlie Haas trolling the living hell out of NYC is always fun to watch, match quality aside.

**Jack Evans 187** · 11-29-2012, 01:17 PM

GOD DAMN! This card seriously looks incredible. I won't be ordering the iPPV cause I have to work, but this will definitely get a dvd purchase from me if it delivers.

- Lethal/Rhino is pretty random but I think it'll give Lethal a good win over a somewhat proven opponent. It should open the show imo.
- Don't care about the Embassy.
- Bennett/Lynn is totally fine with me. If Bennett & Storm can have a few good matches (haven't seem them yet) then there's no doubt in my mind Lynn can do the same.
- Wolves/Fish & O'Reilly could be the sleeper match of the night. There's a couple different ways it could go. Obviously the young heels can win, then we eventually get singles matches and another tag blowoff, OR, the Wolves could pick up a big win, enjoy teaming up again, and decide to continue to team up to take down SCUM as the Tag Champs. Yeah, that gets my vote. Freshen up that tag scene while still occasionally give them singles matches.
- Strong/Elgin has been building forever and it'll be pretty damn hard for the match to not deliver. I expect some sick looking back breakers and Strong to win in heel fashion. This will eventually go into a Steel Cage, FWH, or something along those lines in the future.
- I love the idea of Cole/Hardy. Hardy as a heel would be totally fine with me in ROH. I didn't mind his run in TNA a couple years back and this could be somewhat similar to his match with AJ Styles. Another sleeper match that could definitely deliver.
- NYC Street Fight could be fun and should be a bloodbath. Whitmer & Titus in the same match, some bladejobs have to go down, right?
- I don't know what to expect out of the Tag Title match. It's the question mark on the night.
- Main Event will fucking rock our socks off. Anything less will be a disappointment.

Needless to say, this HAS to be better than last year's shitbag they called "Final Battle." Period.

OH, I forgot to say, I think Generico needs to win. Mainly so we can get some fresh Title matches with Generico actually winning big matches. Obvious one is a match with Lethal down the line, plus I could also see a 3-way with both Lethal & Steen. Those two need to settle their differences anyway, so Generico could still have some great defenses against Eddie, Roddy, Davey(?), Rhino, dare I say Matt Hardy, before eventually losing the title to Elgin. BOOK IT!

The CRA1GER · 11-29-2012, 02:26 PM

I think if Generico wins, Lethal will challenge him right afterwards and win the title.

Pablo Escobar · 11-29-2012, 04:54 PM

I think Roddy vs. Elgin could be the show stealer. I would be all over Generico vs. Steen, however they didn't really build it up at all. I think Elgin and Roddy will throw the sink at each other.

Yes, i agree the Rhyno vs. Lethal seems totally thrown together, same as the 3 way, Lynn/Bennett and Hardy/Cole although i haven't paid too close of attention to the shows lately.

I think this about of card as ROH could have put on at this point with the roster they have. I think it will be a good show. And i hope lethal stays AWAY from the main event.

Matt_Yoda · 11-29-2012, 06:29 PM

I could only imagine the heat Lethal would get if he comes out there and steals Generico's moment like that, especially if the match turns out to be great.

**Obfuscation** · 11-30-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ceeder

Briscoes thrown into the tag title match puts me off of it, although I have loved Jacob's work this year and C&C keep getting better. WBTT and BJ Express will suck, no doubt. I disagree with you on Wolves/Fish+KORy, though, provided it doesn't turn into a 20 minue kickfest. Potential is there, although some of the heat is gone with Eddie's recent schedule.

Strong/Elgin is likely my second favourite match on the card after Steenerico.

That's the turn off in the tag titles match for me. Was pulling for SCUM vs Carolina Crew only. That would have worked. I would have enjoyed that. Said it plenty of times though, no surprise ROH felt the need to chuck in Briscoes. I'd much rather see Jay back in singles competition.

WGTT vs Whitmer/Titus. lol, yeah, trash.

Fair enough. I've stated numerous times my opinion on Davey Richards. I like Eddie when he's not against someone like Davey or O'Reilly. Never cared for Bobby Fish either.

Elgin could get a decent rub off of Roddy. Match should be hard hitting, although I fear immense blandness. Look at who is involved. Love Roddy, but I'm only being realistic here.

More and more I think about it i'm actually looking forward to Lynn/Bennett. Think I made mention it could go the route of his match vs Storm. Only better since I prefer Lynn over Storm. Age isn't even an issue either. That's the crazy part. Hoping it works out really well. Maybe it will finally convince me to be a Mike Bennett fan.