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Old 10-28-2012, 09:35 PM   #41 (permalink)
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My mistake, I was thinking of HOH.

But seriously, you're talking about a pretty much fresh, new company with recycled talent being number 3 in the country?

And if mainstream America doesn't watch ROH, what makes you think they will suddenly watch NJPW? To mainstream America, WWE is wrestling. From what I understand, NJPW is doing quite well for a company not based in America, as their style fits better with an international audience.

As for the other 3 companies, seriously, let's not say a show that fewer than a dozen people on this forum have heard of and say they could be number 3. If us internet geeks haven't heard of it, what makes you think mainstream America will take a liking to it?

There is a reason why companies like Wrestling Society X and Urban Wrestling Federation all failed. Most fans care nothing about wrestling that isn't WWE. I, for one, have no interest in watching TCW, when I have no idea what that is.

Financial backing is key. Are these companies you listed making money? Where are they based out of and how often do they hold shows? Who are their champions?

And OP, you've just listed 5 companies that could be number 3. Which is weird because you earlier said Chikara and have since replaced them with AAW. Do you even know what you're talking about or do you just like making threads with no insight until others comment so you can repeat what they say?
No I know what i'm talking about. Also Urban Wrestling Federation is still in business. They told me they are discussing plans for next year. UWF is just on hiatus right now.
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No I know what i'm talking about. Also Urban Wrestling Federation is still in business. They told me they are discussing plans for next year. UWF is just on hiatus right now.
Who told you?


And obviously, you don't know what you're talking about, based on the fact that your opinion changes the more replies the thread gets.


I'm going to break it down like this. When WCW & ECW went out of business, who thought ROH & TNA would take up the slack? Nobody because neither promotion was around. No difference in this case, the most suitable contender might be some super promotion founded by a financial heavyweight, same way TNA & ROH got started.

But, I'm willing to bet it won't be any of the promotions YOU listed, simply because whats stopping them from being up there now? If the product is that good, they would be widely recognized, not only acknowledged by the internet.
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Who told you?


And obviously, you don't know what you're talking about, based on the fact that your opinion changes the more replies the thread gets.


I'm going to break it down like this. When WCW & ECW went out of business, who thought ROH & TNA would take up the slack? Nobody because neither promotion was around. No difference in this case, the most suitable contender might be some super promotion founded by a financial heavyweight, same way TNA & ROH got started.

But, I'm willing to bet it won't be any of the promotions YOU listed, simply because whats stopping them from being up there now? If the product is that good, they would be widely recognized, not only acknowledged by the internet.
The people that run the official Urban Wrestling Federation Facebook page told me. Also true with what you said they need a fed with a lot of financial backing.
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The people that run the official Urban Wrestling Federation Facebook page told me. Also true with what you said they need a fed with a lot of financial backing.
Big deal, a shitty promotion, with monthly 1 hour PPV shows is returning. Failure written all over it.

It's the only way a promotion can rise to number 3 or number 2. It won't be a little ass promotion from Chicago that survives of DVD sales that rises to the top. It takes someone with money and a damn good business plan. The Jarretts succeeded with that, Gabe & RF succeeded.

Having a big name or 2 means nothing if you don't have the finances to present a big league product and in the end, I don't know any indy with the right amount of finances and a strong enough reputation to do that. And it damn sure won't be Extreme Rising.
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El Chapo I'm not a big fan of how you act towards AmazingChamp but I think you're onto something here. I'll explain in a little bit. I would like to say that I don't think TCW(though I have watched a couple episodes on Youtube and I wish other promotions had their production values), Resistance, or AAW are going to move on up to number 3. They either focus on one area or they just aren't good enough.

As far as promotions that I think will become the Number 3 promotion in America? I think it pretty much comes down to the two people are most talking about in CHIKARA and DGUSA/Evolve. CHIKARA has a unique product that also has more people interested in it than ever and it seems to keep growing. There is a lot to be said for a promotion that can keep things family friendly but at the same time offer an exciting and fun product. Too many people these days consider violent to mean exciting. DGUSA/Evolve has a style more like Ring of Honor and given this "What If" scenario they would benefit heavily from it. Davey Richards, Eddie Edwards, and even Kevin Steen could find themselves there.Neither company really needs to up their game tremendously since, like people have said, being number 3 isn't what it use to be but it still means you are the third best/biggest in America.

Now I wouldn't have called Ring of Honor a super promotion to start it did collect the best independent talent out there and put them in one place. This sort of idea could strike again. Maybe if ROH went under the next number 3 is a promotion we haven't heard of yet. A promotion designed to be on TV or the internet. Not just taking all the ROH guys but also grabbing some of the other great wrestlers on the independents. It wouldn't be a "super-promotion" but it also wouldn't just seem like a collection of good wrestlers. The issue is that it would need to seem fresh. Too many promotions try to do something different and they go too far with it or they aren't original enough. If ROH did go under it would be interesting to see what would happen.
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El Chapo I'm not a big fan of how you act towards AmazingChamp but I think you're onto something here. I'll explain in a little bit. I would like to say that I don't think TCW(though I have watched a couple episodes on Youtube and I wish other promotions had their production values), Resistance, or AAW are going to move on up to number 3. They either focus on one area or they just aren't good enough.

As far as promotions that I think will become the Number 3 promotion in America? I think it pretty much comes down to the two people are most talking about in CHIKARA and DGUSA/Evolve. CHIKARA has a unique product that also has more people interested in it than ever and it seems to keep growing. There is a lot to be said for a promotion that can keep things family friendly but at the same time offer an exciting and fun product. Too many people these days consider violent to mean exciting. DGUSA/Evolve has a style more like Ring of Honor and given this "What If" scenario they would benefit heavily from it. Davey Richards, Eddie Edwards, and even Kevin Steen could find themselves there.Neither company really needs to up their game tremendously since, like people have said, being number 3 isn't what it use to be but it still means you are the third best/biggest in America.

Now I wouldn't have called Ring of Honor a super promotion to start it did collect the best independent talent out there and put them in one place. This sort of idea could strike again. Maybe if ROH went under the next number 3 is a promotion we haven't heard of yet. A promotion designed to be on TV or the internet. Not just taking all the ROH guys but also grabbing some of the other great wrestlers on the independents. It wouldn't be a "super-promotion" but it also wouldn't just seem like a collection of good wrestlers. The issue is that it would need to seem fresh. Too many promotions try to do something different and they go too far with it or they aren't original enough. If ROH did go under it would be interesting to see what would happen.
I'm not a big fan of his posting style, thats based on him repeating other people's replies, folding his argument & agreeing with everybody else and not being able to form an opinion of his own.

Look at the OP and where he listed who could be number 3. Scroll further and notice that when other people add to the discussion, he suddenly changes his tune and agrees with them.

It just seems pointless to start a discussion, based on opinions, when your opinion is based on the opinions of others. And like I said before, did anybody see TNA & ROH taking up the slack when WCW & ECW folded? It's quite pointless to list any of the current indies, when if they are even possible of taking up the slack, wouldn't they be slightly bigger than they already are?

Being an indy company with various top indy talent doesn't mean anything. MECW tried to do it right after WCW went out of business, done after 1 show. MLW tried to replace ECW, went out of business. And those were companies highly regarded as being the next companies to replace WCW & ECW, back when ROH & TNA weren't even in the discussion. And TNA & ROH surpassed them, out of the blue.

Amazing Champ's post would be better if he put some thought into it and quit basing it on what everybody else says & likes. It gets irritating to see a guy keep changing his opinion the further the thread goes.
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Chikara is the number 4. So they immediately become the number 3 by basic logic.

I think a new promotion or DGUSA/Evolve might take the spot over with the influx of ROH guys they'd get though.

Also wtf is TCW? I've never heard of it mentioned anywhere but here.
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Chikara is the number 4. So they immediately become the number 3 by basic logic.

I think a new promotion or DGUSA/Evolve might take the spot over with the influx of ROH guys they'd get though.

Also wtf is TCW? I've never heard of it mentioned anywhere but here.
TCW is pretty interesting. You should check it out.
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TCW is too old school for the iwc but the young promotion keeps growing . I wouldn't expect the Chikara or roh hardcore fanbase to like the promotion. TCW is growing without trying to appeal to the iwc. TCW is expanding its tv markets in the states and working on international tv outlets(where the real money at). Hell, they might jump roh.
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AAA is naturally next. They have everything in their favorite. I hope one day luchalibreusa will give up the rights to promote AAA in the US.
They don't have the new Mistico who is an amazing wrestler and the most popular gimmick in Mexico, possibly of all time?

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