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AJPW "40TH ANNIVERSARY YEAR FLASHING TOUR 2012", 08.09.2012
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1. MAZADA & Aegyptus Aerial besiegen Andy Wu & SUSHI (4:42) mit einem High-Angle Cradle von Aerial gegen SUSHI.
2. AJPW World Jr. Heavyweight Title Skirmish: Hiroshi Yamato & Masanobu Fuchi besiegen Hikaru Sato & Michael Nakazawa (9:58) mit einem Small Package von Fuchi gegen Nakazawa.
3. KENSO & The Great Sasuke besiegen Osamu Nishimura & Masao Inoue (10:28) mit dem Sasuke Soecial Version 10.1 Segway von Sasuke gegen Inoue.
4. AJPW World Tag Team Title Skirmish: Joe Doering & Zodiac besiegen Takao Omori & Taiyo Kea (8:38) als Zodiac Omori nach einem Double Impact pinnte.
5. Triple Crown Skirmish: Masakatsu Funaki, Minoru Tanaka & Koji Kanemoto besiegen Suwama, Kaz Hayashi & Shuji Kondo (5:18) nach dem Hybrid Blaster von Funaki gegen Suwama.
6. GAORA TV Title Tournament - Round 1: Yasafumi Nakanoue besiegt Ryota Hama (6:21) mit einem Schoolboy.
7. GAORA TV Title Tournament - Round 1: Kazushi Miyamoto besiegt Manabu Soya (6:01) nach dem Turmeric Bomber.
8. GAORA TV Title Tournament - Round 1: Tomoaki Honma besiegt Masayuki Kono (12:02) mit dem Kokeshi.
9. GAORA TV Title Tournament - Round 1: Seiya Sanada besiegt Yuji Okabayashi (16:04) mit dem THIS IS IT.
The big guys will go All/New Japan. Hopefully not too many of them go New Japan because their roster is immense enough and doesn't need too many heavyweights adding to it. They need the Juniors though. All Japan is the next best option but they aint too good financially either so they'd be limited on how many big contracts they could add to the roster. They're the only 2 promotions who tours full time with the type of budget that could bring some big names in. Guys like Suzuki and Shiozaki wont just work ZERO-1 or Diamond Ring shows for example because there isn't enough money in it for them. Besides Diamond Ring have only had 2 televised shows all year so that's not an exclusive option for anyone. Wouldn't expect many of the Jr.s to end up in Dragon Gate besides maybe Ishimori if he follows. There'll probably be enough guys left behind for them to carry on for the short term holding on to whatever's left. It's not surprising, promotions don't just suddenly implode and this has been coming for a long time.
I don't want to see anyone in NJPW, because they're fucking loaded, it's better if they go elsewhere, there needs to be some kind of balance. AJPW is not super rich, but they're in way better shape than NOWA, so they can afford Go and Akiyama. Plus, D-Ring will get more TV deals with ease, if they sign Kobashi & Co, so no biggie there.
The hope for the guys to appear in NJPW is only based on a dream match format. For me. Except for my mention of Ishimori to be involved with the Junior division. I'm seriously pulling for that now.
On Tuesday, Taue faced the press in Chiba. Being clearly worried about the recent headlines, Taue declined Kobashi had been fired, as reported by Tokyo Sports. However, he also noted that Kobashi will comment on the issue at Sunday's Ryugoku Kokugikan show. It is to be expected that Kobashi's appearence has to do with the report of Tokyo Sports, what exactly he will announce though, Taue didn't comment on.
About the news of Akiyama, Shiozaki, Suzuki, Kanemaru and Aoki leaving the promotion out of loyality to Kobashi, Taue only commented that he will continue trying to keep them in the promotion. Since the current situation is tense, the chance of an agreement seems to be small.
Meanwhile Uchida-san, president of AJPW noted that the doors are open for appearences of all six wrestlers, especially Kobashi. Uchida didn't promise new contracts with AJPW, but said that nothing would speak against all six wrestlers appearing as freelancers in the Zen Nihon ring.
Minoru Suzuki is, most often than not, my favorite part of any NJPW card. Although admittedly his performance sometimes coincides with his card placement, (he seems to get a little lazy when he's in just a throwaway tag match or something for example) he really steps it up when the spotlight is on. Plus, even in some of those throwaway matches, he's damn entertaining. At this point, I would be happy to see him win the title & get a run like Okada did. Age seems to matter a lot less in Japan than it does in the States & as a former Triple Crown Champion, it's not like he's not credible enough.
Aoki & Suzuki would be a great additions to NJPW's junior division.
Seeing how Kobashi will probably never retire, I can see him doing what he did in NOAH before his injury but in AJPW. Never advancing up/down the roster but staying on cards to be a draw for the company.
Shiozaki and Kanemaru can fuck right off. Never really liked them. Dull as dogshit but realistically, wouldn't be surprised if NJPW picked Go up on his name value alone and the fact he's still quite young. No idea about Kanemaru though. Probably freelance or retirement.
I don't want to sound to enthusiastic about seeing a company that was once great going out of business but imagine the possibilities of a motivated Morishima or Yone taking names in AJPW.
Cactus - NOAH vs NJPW round one 2002 shit, in order, now. Check my review thread on .tv. Best Kanemaru ever was and that is to say he was once great for a minute.
Kanemaru is as bad as Marufuji these days. And less interesting than Marufuji. So worse than Marufuji.
The older Kanemaru matches that I've watched recently didn't make me think he was ever overly good. He didn't look horrible but he had great wrestlers like KENTA (when he was great), Liger and Kanemoto in there with him
I will say I haven't watched any Noah since like 2010....but he was really awesome in 2009. Maybe he is way worse than he was back then, but I loved him in 09.
Have you guys seen the matches with Kosu vs. Miyahara/Nakajima from that year? They had two awesome matches that I thought were incredible.
Go Shiozaki isn't the greatest overall guy around. I do enjoy his hot finishing stretches, though. Stick him vs a quality opponent to do the major control segments and I'll be good.
Always really dug KENTA. Although I find it funny that I thought his best string of matches came from his work in ROH than they did from his career in NOAH.
10 minute bout vs Morishima in early 2007 for the ROH world championship is BOSS though. KENTA + that promotion's name seems to create magic most of the time.
To be honest, I love KENTA from 04 - 09 (ish), but since then he's failed to get back to that level. Even back then though his matches almost all followed the exact same structure. I enjoyed that structure though for the most part. KENTA vs heavyweight guys is literally amazing though.
I can't say I remember who said this or where this person said this, but once I read someone, somewhere write "I really, really don't like KENTA and never have." It may as well have been me writing it because that's word for word how I feel about KENTA.
The match may not be anything to write home about. But the crowd heat for Nakamura/Sakuraba is gonna be off the fucking charts. Old school New Japan vs Outsider heat :mark:
Yeah, pretty sure the crowd would cheer for anyone against the laughter7 guys, but it's Nakamura and the crowd love him as it is so it should be awesome. Same for the Makabe/Shibata match (that is happening at WK right?).
Because Sakuraba can't make pro-wrestling parts too interesting in singles matches, and Nakamura's uncompelling faux mat science can be really unconvincing sometimes. The only way it could be good is if they decide just to simply knock the shit out of each others. But the crowd will be off the charts, so that's a huge plus already.
Yeah I'm not a big Makabe fan, but he is capable of having good - great matches, the Suzuki and Tanahashi matches this year for example. Definitely think him going against a smaller, stiffer guy sounds great.
Sakuraba just seems lost at times when he's not stiffing someone, but Nakamura is awesome so I am looking forward to it. Actually don't think there's a bad sounding match on the card.
Makabe is hit or miss for me, honestly, but he's very capable of having great matches, as Bubz mentioned. Makabe/Shibata could really work, especially if they decide Makabe's going over, in that case all they need to book is Makabe killing him silly, the way Takayama killed him silly back in 2003/04. Too bad Shibata wins, though, because he expressed his wishes in going after the Heavyweight title in 2013.
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