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Old 03-12-2013, 08:33 PM   #821 (permalink)
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I thought it was cool. I didn't know it was his new finisher until it was brought up here, but I thought it looked okay. A tad bit awkward, but the Rainmaker looked silly the first time he used it as well.

Seeing as we keep mentioning Yujiro, was anyone else shocked when he beat Makabe? I was when I found out. Makabe was on a role coming into the thing.
Yujiro needed that win for their feud to mean anything. I honestly would have been shocked if Makabe won again.

I'm gonna need a source on the rainmaker being retired. That's just not a good idea.

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Damn Nervosa, will you ever let that WK match result go? Okada will be fine breh.
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Nothing wrong with how Wrestle Kingdom was booked. They rushed Okada before and it paid off in the long run but now is the time to really develop him more. He shouldn't be shoved into the Nakamura role so quickly.
The world title picture is so completely stale right now. If Okada was champion, he would have fresh matches against everyone. His character didn't need much development, its already there.

As a result of him losing, the hottest guy in all of wrestling had all of his mystique and presensce removed. It was bad enough he lost at Dominion. That decision ALMOST makes sense if he wins it back at WK, but the way it shook out has destroyed him it factor and derailed what made him so unique.

The world Title should be the most important thing. Having it on your best or most captivating wrestler should be a priority. Tanahashi hasn't been captivating for years and there are at least 4 guys better than him. That bad booking decision decision ruined not only Okada but the entire main event picture for a while. Not that Tanahashi is all that bad...just stale. He should have been booked as the first guy in forever who has Tanahashi's number. Instead, he now looks like a fluke who just got lucky once, pushed with the sole intention of losing to Tanahashi, and for no other reason.
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:02 PM   #822 (permalink)
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Teams for NOAH's Tag League:
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2. Takashi Sugiura & Naomichi Marufuji
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5. Kensuke Sasaki & Katsuhiko Nakajima
6. Takeshi Morishima & Mohammed Yone
7. Eddie Edwards & Bobby Fish
8. Akitoshi Saito & Tomoaki Honma
9. Yoshihito Sasaki & Shinya Ishikawa
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The world Title should be the most important thing. Having it on your best or most captivating wrestler should be a priority. Tanahashi hasn't been captivating for years and there are at least 4 guys better than him. That bad booking decision decision ruined not only Okada but the entire main event picture for a while. Not that Tanahashi is all that bad...just stale. He should have been booked as the first guy in forever who has Tanahashi's number. Instead, he now looks like a fluke who just got lucky once, pushed with the sole intention of losing to Tanahashi, and for no other reason.
Fair point on Makabe.

I dunno, I think the impressive buyrates for Wrestle Kingdom and for 2/10/13 speak for themselves. The people love Tanahashi, sure it's a tad bit stale, but I fully expect the New Japan Cup winner, whether it be Goto or Suzuki, to dethrone him. Give the title to established veterans, there's no need to rush Okada so fast.

Sure he didn't look great coming off of the loss, but hell, if a guy like Ishii can get so much support despite being a lower card worker and be considered a legitimate contender by some to win the Cup then I don't think Okada has much to worry about. He'll likely get a shot at the tag titles, and he's a strong contender to win G1 as well. Pushing him right into something so fast would be stale. There's a reason Minoru went over him, the fans don't want to see an upstart go over a vet, a respected and popular one at that so quickly.

As for the Rainmaker being retired, it is true. Cage Side Seats confirmed it.
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Yujiro needed that win for their feud to mean anything. I honestly would have been shocked if Makabe won again.

The world title picture is so completely stale right now. If Okada was champion, he would have fresh matches against everyone. His character didn't need much development, its already there.

As a result of him losing, the hottest guy in all of wrestling had all of his mystique and presensce removed. It was bad enough he lost at Dominion. That decision ALMOST makes sense if he wins it back at WK, but the way it shook out has destroyed him it factor and derailed what made him so unique.

The world Title should be the most important thing. Having it on your best or most captivating wrestler should be a priority. Tanahashi hasn't been captivating for years and there are at least 4 guys better than him. That bad booking decision decision ruined not only Okada but the entire main event picture for a while. Not that Tanahashi is all that bad...just stale. He should have been booked as the first guy in forever who has Tanahashi's number. Instead, he now looks like a fluke who just got lucky once, pushed with the sole intention of losing to Tanahashi, and for no other reason.
-You are mixing up personal taste with bad business moves. You might feel that the world title scene is stale, and hell, I kinda agree with you. But New Japan has been doing amazing business with Tanahashi on top and him winning at WK hasn't affected their numbers one bit. Could they have done better with Okada on top right now? I find that hard to believe when the company is still growing after Wrestle Kingdom. It's not like they hit a wall.

It's fine if you think that Okada losing at WK was a bad move because YOUR interest has been affected. But you are making look like it's affecting New Japan when that's just not the case.

-Okada's star power hasn't been affected. Fans still treat him like a big deal, he still gets big pops and is still over very much over.

-Have patience man. Okada is young as hell. and there's not 1 puroresu Ace who hasn't faced adversity before. This CHAOS vs Suzuki Gun is perfect for Okada just like WAR vs New Japan was perfect for Hashimoto or the Jumbo feud was perfect for Misawa. This things take time in Japan and they normally work.

-New Japan hasn't miss the boat because the chance for Okada to be big is still there and most importantly, they are doing great business right now so they don't need to rush things.

Again, I understand you feeling like NJPW missed the opportunity to be (in your opinion) interesting in all fronts. But the truth is they are doing fine right now, most of the fans that matter to New Japan are supporting the product like they haven't in a long time so there's no reason to panic.
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Confused on whether Nakamura is going to defend the IC title first or go for the Tag titles? With Nakamura and Okada trading matches with K.E.S. it really seems like this will be the next match for them before Davey Boy gets his title shot (if that still happens) so that eliminates Okada from winning NJC which gets me predicting Suzuki since Goto has got to deal with Shibata and Ishii has got Mashimo.
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Confused on whether Nakamura is going to defend the IC title first or go for the Tag titles? With Nakamura and Okada trading matches with K.E.S. it really seems like this will be the next match for them before Davey Boy gets his title shot (if that still happens) so that eliminates Okada from winning NJC which gets me predicting Suzuki since Goto has got to deal with Shibata and Ishii has got Mashimo.
I would love to see Suzuki for the IC title and Nakamura and Okada or Okada and Ishii for the tag titles.
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Spent some more time re-watching some of the New Beginning matches once again since I really enjoyed the event as I noted in this thread last week, especially Minoru vs Okada and Tanahashi vs Andersen. I wouldn't mind seeing a rematch between Tanahashi and Karl again sometime in the near future even if it's not for the belt or if Tanahashi isn't champion anymore, I felt the match was good enough to warrant a rematch between them that I believe would draw some money.

Still hurts seeing Okada lose to Minoru, but it was a pretty darn good match.
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Just watched the Shinsuke Nakamura vs Lance Archer Intercontinental Championship match from the 41st Anniversary show and felt it was a very entertaining match, especially after the ref got knocked out and replaced. Lot's of good spots and both performed very well, another hard earned win for Nakamura who has turned out to be a fantastic Intercontinental Championship holder. And man oh man was the Tanahashi vs Devitt match a good one! Lot's of great high flying moves and some good solid wrestling was showcased in that one, I was glad to see Tanahashi win since he's the top dog but I wouldn't mind seeing these two lock up in a Heavyweight Championship match someday, they really put on quite a good match.
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I bet Okada goes over so they can fix their egregious booking error at WK7.

Also, I think everyone is sleeping on Suzuki, here. Making hte World title a central piece in CHAOS/Suzukigun would be really cool.
That's exactly where my mind is going, too.

MiSu Vs Okada in the final. MiSu picking up the title would be a nice slap in the face to Okada. I disagree in how you see Okada as a fluke champion (I felt their WK7 match built them as exact equals) but I do also hope for him to win the tourney/title as opposed to MiSu.
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