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JoeRulz · 02-23-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Seabs

Soya losing in just under 5 minutes is fine.

It's not fine. He has wrestled a 20 min TCC match against Funaki, has won the RWTL, and is the current BJW Strong Champion.

leglock · 02-23-2013, 01:10 PM

I don't know why people shit on Kanemaru. He can turn it up when he has to/is motivated.

Rah · 02-23-2013, 02:44 PM

Soya isn't the real deal.

edit: I'll see myself out...

MF83 · 02-23-2013, 03:33 PM

Knowing All Japan booking, this just means Soya beats Go for the Triple Crown in the not-so-distant future. At the very least, he'll get the win back in the CC.

ywall2breakerj · 02-23-2013, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by leglock

I don't know why people shit on Kanemaru. He can turn it up when he has to/is motivated.

I will now type out a Kanemaru match:

Brainbuster. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.
Repeat. Opponent kicks out at 1. Eats opponent's finisher, kicks out at 1. No sell finisher sequence. Touch Out. End.

Aoki, Suzuki, Kondo, Hayashi, Yamato are all way better than him.

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and is the current BJW Strong Champion

So what?

**Obfuscation** · 02-23-2013, 09:26 PM

Takayama & Frye vs one another in a tag team match.

Should I mark and expect PRIDE level goodness here or let things fall into place so I won't be crushed. Decisions, decisions.

**Seabs** · 02-24-2013, 06:40 AM

5 minutes isn't a burial. If you don't have the odd shorter match then nobody buys finishes until after 10 minutes. Is Akiyama done after losing to Funaki in 4 minutes?

Rah · 02-24-2013, 07:09 AM

It'd be different if he lost to a relative nobody in five minutes.

No one has even seen the match, either. We don't know the narrative of it. There's no way to tell if it was five minutes of complete squash, with Soya eating up Go's offence until he couldn't anymore. It could simply be a lucky opening in which he placed his Go Flasher. Go's come in from NOAH, of course he's going to be booked strongly, it's not at all indicative of Soya's future.

JoeRulz · 02-24-2013, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Seabs

5 minutes isn't a burial. If you don't have the odd shorter match then nobody buys finishes until after 10 minutes. Is Akiyama done after losing to Funaki in 4 minutes?

But Akiyama is Akiyama. Manabu is not a natural talent, he's a product of longterm careful and safe booking, and making him lose to Go in 4 minutes after all the effort they've done with him in 2012 is... wrong. 7-10 minutes would've been fine, but FOUR is just... odd.

**Seabs** · 02-24-2013, 09:46 AM

All the "effort" on him has been as a tag guy with Omori. He's never been an established singles guy and he only got a title shot because it was in his backyard and All Japan's heavy division is scarce. Like Rah said you can have a super competitive sprint go 5 minutes. Plus it's Shiozaki. Some people really overestimate how much wrestling fans who go to shows react to just one loss. It really doesn't matter much, especially for a guy like Soya who isn't any sort of a draw or an established singles guy. This won't affect his standing at all. He'll still be as over as he was before with Omori and barely over at all on his own like he was before.