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#1 ·
Use this thread for posting any spoilers in. Don't be a numpty and complain about seeing spoilers in. If you want to go spoiler free for a show then don't come in here duh.

AJPW "40TH ANNIVERSARY YEAR FLASHING TOUR 2012", 08.09.2012
Tokyo Korakuen Hall
1,350 Fans

1. MAZADA & Aegyptus Aerial besiegen Andy Wu & SUSHI (4:42) mit einem High-Angle Cradle von Aerial gegen SUSHI.
2. AJPW World Jr. Heavyweight Title Skirmish: Hiroshi Yamato & Masanobu Fuchi besiegen Hikaru Sato & Michael Nakazawa (9:58) mit einem Small Package von Fuchi gegen Nakazawa.
3. KENSO & The Great Sasuke besiegen Osamu Nishimura & Masao Inoue (10:28) mit dem Sasuke Soecial Version 10.1 Segway von Sasuke gegen Inoue.
4. AJPW World Tag Team Title Skirmish: Joe Doering & Zodiac besiegen Takao Omori & Taiyo Kea (8:38) als Zodiac Omori nach einem Double Impact pinnte.
5. Triple Crown Skirmish: Masakatsu Funaki, Minoru Tanaka & Koji Kanemoto besiegen Suwama, Kaz Hayashi & Shuji Kondo (5:18) nach dem Hybrid Blaster von Funaki gegen Suwama.
6. GAORA TV Title Tournament - Round 1: Yasafumi Nakanoue besiegt Ryota Hama (6:21) mit einem Schoolboy.
7. GAORA TV Title Tournament - Round 1: Kazushi Miyamoto besiegt Manabu Soya (6:01) nach dem Turmeric Bomber.
8. GAORA TV Title Tournament - Round 1: Tomoaki Honma besiegt Masayuki Kono (12:02) mit dem Kokeshi.
9. GAORA TV Title Tournament - Round 1: Seiya Sanada besiegt Yuji Okabayashi (16:04) mit dem THIS IS IT.
Show looks awesome. Funaki winning in 5 again is awesome. Pinning the wrong guy but I love the idea. Maybe Suwama is taking the title. Hmmmmmmmmm.

Nakanoue beating Hama is a major shock. Is it totally ridiculous to think they might kick push him to the title?

Oh and Fuchi beating guys with a small package in 2012 :mark:
 
#3,959 ·
AJ Styles was in observer radio few mins ago.

Here's some notes from it

* AJ feels last year's G1 was lot more relaxing this year's. He had lot of days of rest in between
* He feels the Tanahashi match was probably the best match he's ever had based on crowd reactions
* The IWGP title match vs Okada at Dominion was put together by him and Okada with minimal supervision by Gedo
* AJ agrees with Alvarez that Red Shoes is the best ref who gets little things/reactions right
* Tanahashi on a Japanese podcast called AJ best wrestler in the world, AJ feels psychology in Japan have helped him and doesn't rely on moves
* AJ doesn't think he will wrestle in his 50s, although he thinks he's having some of best matches of his career
* AJ praises Tanahashi and calls him the MVP for G1
* Toru Yano suggested AJ to do a minute segment with Sakuraba at the tag match since it would pop the crowd
opponents at G1.
* AJ says he mixed up his wrestling style against different opponents at G1. He felt the Yano match was great
* AJ says he was hoping for Ishii to be in his block in G1. Meltzer & Alvarez call it a dream match
* AJ says Tanahashi & Liger are locker room leaders in NJPW
* AJ says he belongs to NJPW now but never say never if he gets an offer he can't refuse in WWE/NXT to be closer at home
* AJ says he's looking forward to a babyface run
* AJ says he didn't know why he got a main event push right out of gate, he feels someone at the back is a fan of him and grateful for the opportunity
* AJ says he didn't know who was winning G1, he just went out with what was given to him
* He wasn't surprised with Tanahashi winning, he was happy because Tanahashi/Okada is a year long story
* AJ says leaving TNA was the best thing happened to him. He buries TNA he doesn't know where he will be now if it wasn't for his decision
* He feels the matches should be graded on fans reaction not on your reaction
* He only does 3 big tours in a year - invasion attack, g1 and g1 tag
* He's not a fan of 6 man tags, it's frustrating for him since he's a singles wrestler and had to rely on Young Bucks to come up with spots
* He's expecting to stop when 42 years old (20th year in business)
* He wants to open his own Dojo when it's over and wants to do business with NJPW
 
#3,905 · (Edited)
NJPW DOMINION 7.5 - OSAKA-JO HALL - 2015 JULY 5




TEN-MAN TAG TEAM PRE-SHOW MATCH
Manabu Nakanishi, Mascara Dorada, Rysuke Taguchi, Sho Tanaka & Yuji Nagata vs Hiroyoshi Tenzan, Satoshi Kojima, Jushin Thunder Liger, Tiger Mask & Yohei Komatsu
***
This match picked up right from the start. Very fast pace. Everyone was flying. Short and sweet opener.



IWGP JUNIOR HEAVYWEIGHT TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Nick & Matt Jackson (The Young Bucks) (c) vs Rocky Romero & Beretta (RPG Vice) vs Kyle O'Reilly & Bobby Fish (reDRagon)
****1/4
Epic match. Everyone got a chance to shine, even Beretta. :lmao reDRagon was awesome. But Young Bucks were the most impressive. I think they superkicked everybody, including each other. The thing about these teams is that they are so innovative, no matter how many matches they have, they always find new things to do in the ring.





Tetsuya Naito & Tomoaki Honma vs Bad Luck Fale & Yujiro Takahashi (Bullet Club)
****
This match was surprisingly good. I marked out at a lot of the spots. Takahashi came out with a hot chick. And Naito gave no fucks. :lmao The story is that Naito's time in Mexico changed him and turned him heel. And his former tag partner Takahashi is on the other side of the ring. As a baby face, Honma worked most of the match. I love his diving headbutt. Naito had some cool character development.





Katsuyori Shibata vs Kazushi Sakuraba
****
Shibata's entrance music is so chill. It sounds like something from a Zelda game. But this match was crazy. Lots of mat wrestling, submissions, and stiff striking. It was like a brutal UFC fight. Didnt expect it to be so good. That soccer kick tho! :banderas





IWGP JUNIOR HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Kenny Omega (c) vs KUSHIDA
*****
Phenomenal fuckin match! :clap Omega has been cleaning up the junior division for the past six months. Now he has to try and beat the winner of the 2015 Best of the Super Juniors, KUSHIDA. There was an awesome video package for KUSHIDA before the match. So this match was one of the best junior matches of the year. The match started with both guys taking nasty bumps outside the ring. Inside the ring Omega focused on KUSHIDA's lower limbs and KUSHIDA focused on Omega's upper limbs. Great selling and psychology from both guys. Omega is an awesome heel. At one point, he performed a powerbomb with one arm. The match had lots of back and forth action. Lots of counters and reversals. The ending was a mark out moment. :mark:






NEVER OPENWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Togi Makabe (c) vs Tomohiro Ishii
****
This is the third match in the series between these two. The feud started with Makabe beating Ishii for the title. When Makabe relinquished the title due to illness, Ishii took the title back. Makabe then regained the title from Ishii at Wrestling Hinokuni in April. This is Ishii's rematch. This match was a strong style war filled with stiff lariats, headbutts, and hard suplexes. Holy shit. No selling can be just as effective as good selling, but only if done right, and these guys know how to do it right. Both guys showed true Japanese fighting spirit in this match. The finish was crazy! :mark:



IWGP HEAVYWEIGHT TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Matt Taven & Michael Bennett w/Maria Kanellis (The Kingdom) (c) vs Karl Anderson & Doc Gallows w/Amber Gallows (Bullet Club)
***1/2
This feud has been more about the silliness of Anderson’s obsession with Maria than it has been about The Kingdom ascending to the top of the NJPW tag division. But it was still a pretty good match. I like how the girls had a strong influence on the match. Anderon's stun gun finisher is insane though! :banderas:





Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Toru Yano
****
The story here is that Yano shockingly eliminated Tanahashi from the New Japan Cup in only a few minutes. That was the first of many wins that Yano stole from Tanahashi, with more coming in the form of tag matches. Tanahashi was forced to play Yano’s game and steal a few underhanded wins of his own. Now we have the rubber match. Even though I don't like Yano, I have to admit that this was an unexpectedly great match. Yano tried every trick in the book, forcing Tanahashi to do the same. The referee was awesome in this match too.





IWGP INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Hirooki Goto (c) vs Shinsuke Nakamura
****1/4
Goto took the intercontinental championship from Nakamura at Wrestling Dontaku. This is Nakamura's rematch. The match started off slow, but began to pick up after. These guys simply beat the living shit out of each other. Crazy spots everywhere, inside and outside the ring. Goto did some cool moves. Great match. :clap Those nearfalls though!






IWGP HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Kazuchika Okada vs AJ Styles (c)
****1/2
When Okada lost to Tanahashi at Wrestle Kingdom in January, The Rainmaker entered a slump and went on a losing streak, losing repeatedly to Bad Luck Fale. Since then it has been about Okada getting back on track. Okada finally got his big win over Fale at Invasion Attack. Now it makes logical sense for him to conclude his story, by beating Styles for the title, the man he lost the title to over one year ago. This match was excellent. Okada and Styles have fantastic chemistry in the ring. LOL @ Okada taking a Bullet Club beating every time he fell out the ring. The referee told Styles to SUCK IT and banned Bullet Club from ringside. :lmao This was hilarious to watch. Styles performed a lot of cool moves, but Okada did moves that were just as impressive. The ending sequence was like a dream. Holy fuckin shit. I have never seen anything like that before. :clap




 
#4,314 ·
Thoughts from Tenryu's retirement show:

Some of my favorite things that made me "pop" at the show:

- Everyone clapping to the classic AJPW theme that was playing pre-show.

- Kikutaro actually hitting his "Monologue Buster". He's used it in every match for over 10 years and this is one of the few times and the only time that is coming to my fried mind where he actually pulled it off.

- Dragon JOKER unmasking himself. Retiring the character with Tenryu, a touching moment.

- Kitahara's precision kicks, those spinning kicks landing dead-on where amazing. Catching everyone off-guard.

- Arashi's forearm strikes, still throws meaning looking strikes than most of the undercard.

- Kuniyoshi Wada was ringside for the whole show, adjusting pads, tightening the turnbuckles and what have you, he was a Riki Choshu trainee in 2003, retiring in 2010. During Choshu's match he put on his old RIKIPRO "K. WADA" jersey, just a cool little moment for him.

- Murakami, I love him, not the greatest wrestler by any means, but an amazing presence, seeing him howling at Fujiwara's slaps and battering him with punches was great, just great to see him back in the spotlight after so many years.

- "Dai Nippon" chants from the crowd, what a heartwarming moment, to see everyone reject the use of Sekimoto & Okabayshi as fodder in the Suwama/Fujita story and champion them as Pro Wrestling heroes was a great moment for sure and considering BJW is looking to push into the next teir, it's great to see such support.

- The main event, what a moment. It was sloppy, ugly, awkward and most importantly; it was perfect. The teetering stance while delivering chops and punches, the knees giving out on suplexes, the head-drop powerbomb. The imagery of a man, spent. Countering that; a man in his prime, ricocheting off the ropes, delivering death-by-dropkick with shotgun-like impact. Tenryu, unable to even get to his feet at points, while Okada springs to his.

Tenryu has nothing left to give Okada, nothing, besides what brought him here in the first place.... fighting spirit. Desperately avoiding the inevitable Rain Maker, swinging for the fences, literally leaving his mark on the future of Puroresu. But the rains always comes eventually and The Rain Maker extinguished flame, the fire that lied within and broke everyone's heart in Sumo Hall who were on the edge of their seat, ready to start cheering for the kickout, our disbelief suspended up in the stars over the arena. But it never happened and it never would again, Mr. Puroresu's career had come to an end, but in that magical moment, even after the shambles I had witnessed, it still felt too soon.

- The most emotional moment of the show for me actually came AFTER Tenryu and everyone else had left, I was sitting 5 seats from where Tenryu entered and as his dying theme played slow and sombre, everyone was filing out, one thing remained: Tenryu's iconic banner-man, flying his flag high and proud, with all the Tenryu logos and calligraphy swaying slowly to the theme. I must of stood there for like 10 minutes watching the banners thinking about Tenryu's career and what I had seen, as the banner-men gave their final chant together and lowered the banners. It was a really great moment that I was totally absorbed in.

Random notes:

- I realized during the Joshi match that I was standing next to Cassandra Miyagi at the Sumo Hall gate while I was taking photos and stuff hours before the show. Not the first time my lack of Joshi knowledge has left me oblivious to things like this.

- When I finally snapped out of staring at the banners, I turned around to leave and BAM! There was Jushin Liger, standing a few rows back looking at me.

- I met up with Brent Davis before the show and we hung out a bit, as well as chatting away in the 2 hours we spent in lines to get into the building and then to get merch. Found memories of the FINAL BURNING show. We also stumbled upon Fumiaki.

- I also met Masa Horie and Haru (who designs all the Funk/Hansen/Jumbo/Tenryu T-shirts.) pre-show while waiting for Brent to stop being 30 minutes late due to loitering around McDonalds, typical American.

- This was the only show I've ever been too that supplied a streamer on your seat for you to throw. Why more companies don't make a killing selling pre-made tape colour packs for certain wrestlers at shows is beyond me.

- The fact they were still trying to sell merch in the main lobby as 13,000 people nudged their way through was madness. There was plenty of me cussing people out in that mess.
 
#3,816 ·
Alright, so after my 7-week extended Puroresu holiday in Tokyo, after countless witnessing of matches & moments, it's time to think back on what stuck out as the best and worst. Obviously seeing so many shows in such a short time makes them bleed together a bit and I'm working on memory of how I felt seeing them live.
Top 5 Shows
1. AJPW 2015.5.6 (5 good/great tag matches back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back. Pure quality in front of an empty Korakuen Hall)
2. AJPW 2015.5.21 (Very enjoyable six-man, Tsuruta Memorial match and then 3 great singles bouts to finish off the show)
3. Michinoku Pro 2014.6.14 (Finally getting to see my favorite company and favorite wrestlers, good matches, great madness)
4. W-1 2015.5.5 (Really fun show, so many young guys mixing it up, Cruiserweight tournament semis and finals, Suzuki vs Hama, super mist team)
5. KanaProMania 2015.5.27 (Tremendous variety of talent from all-over Japan, fun matches and legend-filled main event and Gabai Jichan!!!)
Top 5 Matches
1. Kaz Hayashi vs Minoru Tanaka (W-1 2015.5.5)
2. KUSHIDA vs Bobby Fish (NJPW 2015.5.30)
3. KUSHIDA vs Kyle O'Reilly (NJPW 2015.6.5)
4. Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi vs Shuji Ishikawa & Kohei Sato (Z-1 2015.5.4)
5. Go Shiozaki & Kento Miyahara vs Akebono & Yutaka Yoshie (AJPW 2015.5.6)
Some good moments
- Kenou's "final" Michinoku match (M-Pro 2015.6.14)
- Seikigun vs Mu No Taiyo Madness (M-Pro 2015.6.14)
- Koji Kanemoto vs Arisa Nakajima exchange (KanaPro 2015.5.27)
- G1 Climax 25 participants live announcement (NJPW 2015.6.5)
- Naoya Nomura vs Evolution (AJPW 2015.5.21)
Shit-list
- Hideki Suzuki vs Kamikaze
- BoSJ opening day
- Fan Club exclusives
- NJPW's piss-poor atmosphere and NOAH being diluted into the same thing.
- Mitsuharu Misawa Memorial show
 

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Tanahashi is like some modern battle-ravaged samurai always sticking to his convictions. It's amazing how he's led New Japan from its dark days to where it is today.
 
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Suzuki vs Shibata :mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark:

Ishii vs Omega :mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark: :mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark: :mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark::mark:
 
#7,214 ·
SAKURA GENESIS CARD IS REVEALED!
Eight man tag:
Togi Makabe, Yuji Nagata, Tiger Mask W & Tiger Mask IV vs. Bullet Club (Tama Tonga, Tanga Roa, Yujiro Takahashi & Chase Owens)

Six man tag:
CHAOS (YOSHI-HASHI, Rocky Romero & Beretta) vs. Suzukigun (Minoru SUzuki, El Desperado & TAKA Michinoku)

IWGP Jr. Tag Team title match:
Suzukigun (Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Taichi) (c) vs. The World Class Tag Team (Gedo & Jado)

CHAOS (Tomohiro Ishii & Toru Yano) vs. Bullet Club (Kenny Omega & Bad Luck Fale

Eight man tag:
Hiroshi Tanahashi, Juice Robinson, Ricochet & Ryusuke Taguchi vs. Los Ingobernables de Japon (Tetsuya Naito, SANADA, EVIL & BUSHI)

IWGP Tag Team title match:
TenCozy (Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan) (c) vs. War Machine (Hanson & Raymond Rowe)

NEVER Openweight title match:
Hirooki Goto (c) vs. Zack Sabre Jr.

IWGP Jr. title match:
Hiromu Takahashi (c) vs. KUSHIDA

IWGP Heavyweight title match:
Kazuchika Okada (c) vs. Katsuyori Shibata​
 
#7,232 ·
Shibata:
I left once, true. But I was always, always a pro wrestler. It goes back to my father, it goes in my blood. I was born into NJPW. It can’t be changed. So to fight Okada, to be able to fight Okada, I’m excited. But I want to hit that nerve, I want to see just how much of that born and bred pride he has, just how much of that blood is in his veins. He almost hides behind this character as the Rainmaker. He doesn’t wear a mask, but he might as well. I’m not even sure of what I’m saying myself, but I want to see what I can pull out of him, see a real Okada, one nobody’s ever seen before.
Hype!
 
#4,826 ·
This time last year Naito was lost in the shuffle with no direction and no reaction.

Now he's the king of Japanese wrestling and had a sold out Sumo Hall chanting his name.

Make Omega? CHECK
Make Naito? CHECK

Next order of business: hopefully Shibata and the G1.

Fuckin A Gedo way to have your finger on the pulse of what the crowd WANTS and NEEDS
 
#4,871 ·
Where did the "Naito loves WWE" thing come from?

Either way, he has said flat out he would never leave NJPW, and he's been pretty critical of all of the love NJPW has directed toward Nakamura (and it seems pretty apparent that he views Nakamura leaving unfavorably).



Funny thing is, despite all of the debate going on here about if Naito would win, my friend who is casual was like "of course they're not gonna give it to Naito."

I think the WWE hierarchy has made people think that all organizations think this way.

I guess that that shows you that the decision really is surprising/ballsy for more casual viewers. Gedo definitely deserves credit, which I'm glad he's being given.

It seems obvious that he's gonna make Shibata.

I've said all along that the fact that company loved Naito even when he wasn't hot, means that they definitely love him now. Don't know why people were so fatalistic about it.

Now how long his reign will be is another question. They're definitely setting it up so that Okada can punish Naito for being so disrespectfull.
 
#5,533 · (Edited)
He's good and nowhere near as bad as some would like to tell it. Complete with heels still looking strong, which is something that I really appreciate.

He rested on his laurels when he had a hot promotion with reliable talent, which is a trap many bookers tend to fall into. When something is working, it's easy to fall back on that.

When pushed, I do think he's doing an excellent job of building talent. Even little stuff like putting Sanada over Tenzan. I feel some others would have just gone with making the crowd happy.

He's a long, long, term booker so if that annoys you, he's not the booker for you. I don't mind it, especially because it's obvious that the Japanese audience thinks differently about some things. I feel some try to project their dislike of Okada on to the Japanese audience, and I am not seeing that AT ALL.

Some of the stuff is stupid, no doubt, like Nakamura cutting off Goto all the time. Like I said, that's an example of resting on your laurels. Also, dumb shit like watering down the Bullet Club with too many people who don't matter.

No booker is flawless and he certainly has his flaws, but the overstating gets silly to me, and people do it in every single promotion. What booker is heralded? Maybe HHH right now in NXT, and to me that's really easy to do when you don't have to make any money and can rely on the WWE brand name to draw amazing talent from all over the world.

I do think that there's a lot more that goes into stuff than we care to admit. Shibata's my #1 guy, but I can see why they would have been wary of pushing him to the top before.

I like a reliance on multiple top guys, and Gedo should go for that and I think he will.



ETA: The match quality is so good to me that I don't get as bogged down in the booking as some. If you're someone who can't be as happy with great matches, bad decisions will annoy you more. I think WWE annoys me far more because the great performances can't really make up for that.

I also like most of New Japan's top tier guys, so I don't get as irritated if my guys aren't pushed how I'd like. There's still world-class talent all around which I can appreciate. If you start to feel it has to be this or that, you're gonna feel more of a resentment.
 
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