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KENTA is over with a dozen of school fangirls, and that's it. Of course, this is an obvious exaggeration, but you got my point. Unless NOAH's touring plans are high school gyms and kindergardens, this is bad idea.
And he is also over with all the male fans and happens to be one of the true NOAH guys built from the ground up that happens to be incredibly over. Considering his last two GHC Heavyweight title matches drawed, I guess it would be save to say he isn't just over with a small portion of the audience.



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Well, you'd be surprised, because Japs aren't buying into "Juniors over Hewikis" stuff. Shima's already lost a ton of his drawing abilities since his Wild II and post-ROH days, imagine what happens if a midget called KENTA defeats him for the big one. Sheeeit, even Jun Akiyama lost some of his mojo after Ogawa embarrassed him.
Totally different. Ogawa is a shrimp that beat Akiyama in 5 minutes in some of the most retarded booking ever. KENTA is one....wait...The most over guy in the company with credible wins over the longest reigning GHC Champion ever and won a entire tournament to earn this shot again. Considering people have no issue with "the midget" known as Suguira or "McLacky" Okada being top heavyweights, I don't think we will have a problem.

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There's a reason why Liger or Kanemoto never went out there (major titles), it's just too risky. "Being over" is a very tricky thing. NOAH is playing with fire, IMO, it could be Marufuji 2006 case all over again, but NOAH was hot back then at least.
There are also forever juniors and juniors that can become heavyweights. Liger, Kanemoto, Marvin, Suzuki, Aoki, and a BUNCH of others come to mind when I think of that. However, KENTA isn't one of them. He has had some of the best matches against Heavyweights and has looked entirely believable facing some of their champions(Akiyama in 2009 comes to mind). Heck, he damn near made Kawada in his first match back in NOAH. As long as he is willing to put in the effort to convert and keeps the crowd behind him every step of the way, I don't see why not. I'll even go to say KENTA/Sugiura from 2011 was one of the best heavyweight matches in freaking years in NOAH.
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It all comes down to business, and yeah, I'm pretty sceptical with KENTA there. Plus, you mention Sugiura the Junior. Right... His reign had the lowest numbers ever.
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Well, you'd be surprised, because Japs aren't buying into "Juniors over Hewikis" stuff. Shima's already lost a ton of his drawing abilities since his Wild II and post-ROH days, imagine what happens if a midget called KENTA defeats him for the big one. Sheeeit, even Jun Akiyama lost some of his mojo after Ogawa embarrassed him.

There's a reason why Liger or Kanemoto never went out there (major titles), it's just too risky. "Being over" is a very tricky thing. NOAH is playing with fire, IMO, it could be Marufuji 2006 case all over again, but NOAH was hot back then at least.
That's a damn shame then. Especially from someone who's size shouldn't come into play. Morishima might be a monster, but if you get kneed or kicked that hard (since that's KENTA's MO) you're gonna go down. That simple. This isn't some Rey Mysterio beating Big Show with a seated senton BS. KENTA is a junior who is strong enough to actually lift Morishima for his finisher. There really isn't going to be some major disbelief that a smaller wrestler beat a bigger wrestler here. Don't know why fans would be so taken aback by it. Then again, I'm one of those guys who doesn't ever put size into play. Except for my previous example of Mysterio. That was mostly due to cheesy booking.

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NJPW "NJPW 40TH ANNIVERSARY TOUR ~ WORLD TAG LEAGUE 2012", 02.12.2012 (WPW/PPV/iPPV)
Aichi Prefectural Gymnasium
8,500 Fans - Super No Vacancy


1. Minoru Suzuki, TAKA Michinoku , Kengo Mashimo & Taichi besiegen Yuji Nagata, Masaaki Mochizuki , Ryusuke Taguchi & BUSHI (11:41) nach einem Taichi-Style Gedo Clutch von Taichi gegen BUSHI.
2. YOSHI-HASHI & Jado besiegen Rush & Diamante Azul (8:21) nach einer Swanton Bomb von YOSHI-HASHI gegen Azul.
3. World Tag League - Semi Final: Lance Archer & Davey Boy Smith Jr. besiegen Togi Makabe & Wataru Inoue (12:10) als Smith Inoue nach der Killer Bomb pinnte.
4. World Tag League - Semi Final: Hirooki Goto & Karl Anderson besiegen Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima (14:41) nach dem Shouten Kai von Goto gegen Tenzan.
5. Manabu Nakanishi & Strong Man besiegen Toru Yano & Takashi Iizuka (3:50) als Iizuka nach Eingreifen von Tanaka & Takahashi disqualifiziert wurde.
6. Manabu Nakanishi, Strong Man, MVP & Shelton Benjamin besiegen Masato Tanaka , Toru Yano, Takashi Iizuka & Yujiro Takahashi als Iizuka disqualifiziert wurde.
7. Kazushi Sakuraba & Katsuyori Shibata besiegen Shinsuke Nakamura & Tomohiro Ishii (9:20) nach einem Sakuraba Lock von Sakuraba gegen Ishii.
8. Kazuchika Okada & Gedo besiegen Hiroshi Tanahashi & KUSHIDA (15:22) nach dem Rainmaker von Okada gegen KUSHIDA.
9. World Tag League - Final: Hirooki Goto & Karl Anderson besiegen Lance Archer & Davey Boy Smith Jr. (15:36) nach dem Gun Stun von Anderson gegen Smith.


- World Tag League Group Stage Final Standings:

Block A:
1. [Always Hypers] Togi Makabe & Wataru Inoue [8]
2. [Sword & Guns] Hirooki Goto & Karl Anderson [8]
3. [Mr. Anti-Agings E & W] Yuji Nagata & Masaaki Mochizuki [6]
4. [CHAOS Invincible] Shinsuke Nakamura & Tomohiro Ishii [6]
5. [CHAOS RIDE THE LIGHTNING] Kazuchika Okada & YOSHI-HASHI [6]
6. [Suzuki Army] Minoru Suzuki & Kengo Mashimo [6]
7. [Captain Ace] Hiroshi Tanahashi & Captain New Japan [0]

Block B:
1. [Best in the World TenKojI] Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima [8]
2. [Killer Elite Squad] Lance Archer & Davey Boy Smith Jr. [8]
3. [Complete Players] Masato Tanaka & Yujiro Takahashi [6]
4. [CHAOS Dark Men] Toru Yano & Takashi Iizuka [6]
5. [THE WORLD GREATEST TAG] MVP & Shelton Benjamin [6]
6. [Japan & Mexico Muscle Orchestra ReturnS] Manabu Nakanishi & Strong Man [4]
7. [CMLL Asesino] Rush & Diamante Azul [4]





AJPW "40TH ANNIVERSARY YEAR REAL WORLD TAG LEAGUE 2012", 30.11.2012 (GAORA TV)
Tokyo Korakuen Hall
1,700 Fans


1. Yasufumi Nakanoue besiegt SUSHI (5:10) mit einem Horizontal Cradle.
2. Real World Tag League - Block A: Masakatsu Funaki & Masayuki Kono [6] besiegen Taiyo Kea & Seiya Sanada [3] (11:13) nach einem Giant Kneedrop von Kono gegen Sanada.
3. Real World Tag League - Block A: Takao Omori & Manabu Soya [7] besiegen Tomoaki Honma & Kazushi Miyamoto [4] (8:17) nach einem Axe Bomber von Omori gegen Honma.
4. Real World Tag League - Block B: Koji Kanemoto & Minoru Tanaka [5] besiegen Akebono & Ryota Hama [4] (9:13) nach einem Horizontal Cradle von Tanaka gegen Hama.
5. Real World Tag League - Block B: Suwama & Joe Doering [6] besiegen Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi [3] (9:00) nach einer Revolution Bomb von Doering gegen Okabayashi.
6. Kaz Hayashi & Shuji Kondo besiegen Hiroshi Yamato & Andy Wu (5:00) nach der King Kong Lariat von Kondo gegen Wu.
7. Keji Muto, KENSO & Masanobu Fuchi besiegen Bambi Killer, Franz Dynamite & MAZADA (10:55) nach dem Shining Wizard von Muto gegen MAZADA.
8. Real World Tag League - Final / AJPW World Tag Team Title: Takao Omori & Manabu Soya besiegen Suwama & Joe Doering (19:44) nach einem Wild Bomber von Soya gegen Doering - Titelwechsel.


BJW, 24.11.2012 (Samurai! TV)
Tokyo Korakuen Hall
1,296 Fans


0. Yuichi Taniguchi besiegt Amigo Suzuki (6:37) mit einem Horizontal Cradle.
1. Daisuke Sekimoto & Kazuki Hashimoto besiegen Abdullah Kobayashi & Kankuro Hoshino (7:35) nach einer Short Range Lariat von Sekimoto gegen Hoshino.
2. MEN's Teioh 20th Anniversary Match: MEN's Teioh, Kota Ibushi DDT & Makoto Oishi DDT besiegen Onryo, Tsutomu Oosugi & Hercules Senga (13:17) nach einem Tornado Clutch von Teioh gegen Onryo.
3. Big Japan Tag League - Block A Final / BJW Tag Team Title: Yuji Okabayashi & Shinobu (c) besiegen Osamu Nishimura & Shinya Ishikawa (15:29) nach einem Argentine Backbreaker von Okabayashi gegen Ishikawa (2nd defense).
4. Big Japan Tag League - Block B Final, Fluorescent Lighttubes, Ladder & Hammer Death Match ~ The Devouring of Heaven and Earth: Yuko Miyamoto & Isami Kodaka Union Pro besiegen Ryuji Ito & Takumi Tsukamoto (14:51) nach einem Diving Double Kneedrop von Kodaka gegen Tsukamoto.
5. Big Japan vs. All Japan: Ryota Hama AJPW & Yasufumi Nakanoue AJPW besiegen Yoshihito Sasaki & Hideyoshi Kamitani (7:45) nach einem Reverse Splash von Hama gegen Kamitani.
6. Jun Kasai Big Japan Return Match - Hardcore Match: Takashi Sasaki, "Black Angel" Jaki Numazawa & Shadow WX besiegen Jun Kasai, Brahman Shu & Brahman Kei (13:47) nach einem GOD-Style Piledriver von Numazawa gegen Kei.
7. Big Japan Tag League - Final / BJW Tag Team Title: Yuko Miyamoto & Isami Kodaka Union Pro besiegen Yuji Okabayashi & Shinobu (c) (20:38) nach einem Fire Thunder auf Lighttubes von Miyamoto gegen Okabayashi - Titelwechsel.

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1. 3 Way Match: SUSHI vs. Kikutaro vs. Andy Wu
2. Yasufumi Nakanoue vs. Tomoaki Honma
3. Kaz Hayashi & Shuji Kondo vs. Minoru Tanaka & MAZADA
4. Suwama, Joe Doering & KENSO vs. Taiyo Kea, Akebono & Ryota Hama
5. Takao Omori vs. Masayuki Kono
6. AJPW World Jr. Heavyweight Title: Hiroshi Yamato (c) vs. Koji Kanemoto
7. GAORA TV Title: Seiya Sanada (c) vs. Kazushi Miyamoto
8. Special Tag Match: Keiji Muto & Big Van Vader vs. Bambi Killer & Franz Dynamite
9. Triple Crown: Masakatsu Funaki (c) vs. Manabu Soya


NOAH "GREAT VOYAGE 2012 IN RYOGOKU VOL. 2", 09.12.2012 (G+)
Tokyo Ryogoku Kokugikan


1. NOAH vs. Diamond Ring 3 Match Series 1st: Mikey Nicholls & Shane Haste vs. Mitsuhiro Kitamiya & Tsurugi
2. NOAH vs. Diamond Ring 3 Match Series 2nd: Taiji Ishimori & Atsushi Kotoge vs. Katsuhiko Nakajima & Satoshi Kajiwara
3. NOAH vs. Diamond Ring 3 Match Series 3rd: Mohammed Yone vs. Kento Miyahara
4. GHC Jr. Heavyweight Tag Team Title: Super Crazy & Ricky Marvin (c) vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Genba Hirayanagi
5. GHC Jr. Heavyweight Title: Shuji Kondo (c) vs. Kotaro Suzuki
6. NOAH vs. AJPW Special 6-Man Tag Match: Jun Akiyama, Yoshinari Ogawa & Atsushi Aoki vs. Taiyo Kea , Akebono & Kaz Hayashi
7. NO MERCY vs. Jado Army Special 6-Man Tag Match: Yoshihiro Takayama, KENTA & Maybach Taniguchi vs. Atsushi Onita, Ichiro Yaguchi & Hideki Hosaka
8. GHC Tag Team Title: Go Shiozaki & Akitoshi Saito (c) vs. Takashi Sugiura & Naomichi Marufuji
9. GHC Heavyweight Title: Takeshi Morishima (c) vs. Satoshi Kojima


BJW "BIG JAPAN DEATH VEGAS", 09.12.2012 (Samurai! TV)
Yokohama Bunka Gymnasium


1. Shinya Ishikawa, Kazuki Hashimoto & Hideyoshi Kamitani vs. Takashi Sasaki, Kankuro Hoshino & Rory Mondo CZW (USA)
2. MEN's Teioh, Shinobu, Tsutomu Oosugi & Hercules Senga vs. Brahman Shu, Brahman Kei, Masato Inaba & Amigo Suzuki
3. "Black Angel" Jaki Numazawa, Yuko Miyamoto & Isami Kodaka Union Pro vs. Jun Kasai, Shadow WX & Shuji Ishikawa Union Pro
4. Masashi Taketa Big Japan Return Match - Fluorescent Lighttubes, Barbed Wire Boards & Free Weapons Death Match: Masashi Taketa vs. Takumi Tsukamoto
5. AJPW World Tag Team Title: Takao Omori AJPW & Manabu Soya AJPW (c) vs. Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi
6. BJW World Strong Heavyweight Title: Yoshihito Sasaki (c) vs. Ryota Hama AJPW
7. BJW Deathmatch Heavyweight Title: Abdullah Kobayashi (c) vs. Ryuji Ito


Dragon Gate "Final Gate 2012" (PPV)
12/23/2012 Fukuoka, Fukuoka Kokusai Center


- YAMATO vs. Akira Tozawa
- Open the Dream Gate Title (elimination rules): CIMA (c) vs. Shingo Takagi vs. BxB Hulk
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12/2/2012 Aichi, Nagoya Congress Center - 1100 Attendance
1. Don Fujii{W}, Gamma (9:06 Thesz Press) Jimmy Kanda{L}, Mr. Kyukyu Toyonaka Dolphin
2. Cyber Kong (7:58 Cyber Bomb) Mondai Ryu
3. Naruki Doi, Masato Yoshino, Ricochet{W} (14:41 Shooting Star Press) Akira Tozawa, Scott Reed, Kzy{L}
4. BxB Hulk, Naoki Tanisaki{W} (18:41 Night Ride) YAMATO{L}, Shingo Takagi
5. Team Veteran Returns vs. Jimmys 3 Elimination Match Series Round 3: CIMA, Masaaki Mochizuki, Dragon Kid, Yuji Nagata (4-3) Jimmy Susumu, Jimmy Kagetora, Ryo "Jimmy" Saito, Genki Horiguchi H.A.Gee.Mee!!
-Nagata (Backdrop Hold) Saito
-Horiguchi (Backslide from Heaven) Mochizuki
-(Both over the Top Rope) Nagata & Kagetora
-Susumu (Over the Top Rope) CIMA
-DK (23:32 Ultra Hurricanrana) Susumu

KING OF CHOP 4
-Mr. Kyukyu Toyonaka Dolphin def. Naruki Doi
-Gamma def. Akira Tozawa
-Don Fujii def. YAMATO
-Naoki Tanisaki def. CIMA
-Scott Reed def. BxB Hulk
-Shingo Takagi def. Jimmy Kanda
-Don Fujii def. Mr. Kyukyu Toyonaka Dolphin, Gamma
-Naoki Tanisaki def. Scott Reed, Shingo Takagi
-Naoki Tanisaki def. Don Fujii

CIMA & Horiguchi bickered after the opener. CIMA promised victory for Team Veteran. Horiguchi noted that Mochizuki wasn't even in the building yet. CIMA said not to worry about Mocchy, as he would arrive after he was done with his match in New Japan. Horiguchi then inquired about the identity of the X in the main event. CIMA simply said he was X of Team Veteran Returns and they would have to wait for the match to find out more. Horiguchi told him it didn't really matter who he was because the Jimmys were going to win.

The low ranks of -akatsuki- really came back on TakaYAMA today. They were left totally helpless in the face of the constant MAD BLANKEY interference. Tozawa blasted YAMATO with the yellow box to set up the finishing stretch. They were further doused with salt afterwards.

X was none other than Yuji Nagata. He shared the cab ride with Mocchy from Aichi Prefectural Gym to repay his debt from the NJPW tag league. He participated in the usual rubber band assault on Horiguchi, and all of Team Veteran adopted his demonic armbar.

CIMA celebrated the big victory in the final DG trip through Nagoya for 2012. He thanked Nagata for coming out after already wrestling once in his home promotion. Nagata was happy to help. However he took exception to being lumped in with Team Veteran because he surely was not of veteran age yet. In fact, none of them were. Team Veteran closed out the show with a rousing cheer.
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Wait, was it an iPPV? anyway the show sounds pretty good, the opener, Okada/Gedo vs Tana/KUSHIDA and Main Event should be great.
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Sakuraba & Shibata in the ring with Nakamura & Ishii sounds like it could stiff/awesome as hell.
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has me more excited for a match than I've been in a long time.

Predictable winners but that's not a bad thing. Same everyone's even booking mentality as the G1 this year though. I guess a Team Nakanishi vs Team CHAOS multi man gets added to the Dome show along with a Team MiSu vs Team Nagata tag. Probs give the interpromotional tag to TenKoji now.
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That match is actually incredible and on XWT. Ishii is the fucking greatest.

The KENTA argument - Apparently KENTA is the most over man in the company, but that going with him right now really is the right call is the entire problem. You work with what you've got but they've got shit all to work with otherwise.
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Press conference is being held for Dome show, following matches are announced (in addition to the ones already known):

Stong Man, Nakanishi, and MVP vs. Yujiro, Yano (didn't catch the last person, probably Ishii)

NEVER championship:
Masato Tanaka (c) vs. Shelton Benjamin

IWGP Tag Titles
Davey Boy Smith Jr. and Lance Archaer vs. Hirooki Gotoh and Karl Anderson

Yuji Nagata vs. Minoru Suzuki

Special Tag
Hiroyoshi Tenzan and Satoshi Kojima vs. Keiji Mutoh and Daichi Hashimoto

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