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post #681 of 2789 (permalink) Old 04-17-2012, 11:43 AM
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Cena/Tensai wasn't all that great because Cena looked to me like he was off his game a bit. Tensai was great though.

Yeah, it's a bit of a throwback to the gimmick era for sure, but so long as they make it about "here's a big huge dude who beats the shit out of people, also he looks scary and foreign" and not about "he's totally all about Japan and stuff!!!!" he should have no problem getting over. It's also not a cookie cutter gimmick, there's something distinctive about it that people will remember without it being too over the top gimmicky.

Also, Santino is a gimmick guy, but he's gotten over huge, and didn't Brodus get a huge pop last night too? I think Tensai should have no trouble getting over.
Maybe you're right, though I think they need to replace some of his nerve holds and fondness for the claw with more elbows and stiff looking offence. He'll be a great heavyweight worker and if they can keep a fine line between brutal offence with some of the more quirky aspects of the character then it good turn out well, just depends how they book him really.

Haven't seen Cena/Tensai yet, but I'm hoping once they get a proper program we'll get some very good matches out of it.
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I Hope Tenshi will start use some moves from Japan legends. Chop to the head (Kobashi) and something like that.. This is would be cool

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The Cena/Tensai match was completely shit on in the Raw section. Apparently the crowd was pretty dead, and alot of people said Tensai looked awkward in the ring. Personally I thought it was an enjoyable match and I'm really digging Lord Tensai. I hope he gets a monster push like Umaga got in 2006.
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It wasn't great, but it wasn't bad either. Tensai is looking good so far, the crowd doesn't seem to care about him at all yet. I kind of wish they had just debuted him as Giant Bernard, but the japanese gimmick is something fresh in terms of recent years. I like that he uses the green mist, gives him that real foreign/heel wrestler feel. I'm not a fan of the claw thing he does though, seems too similar to that silly choke Kane was using recently.
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RAW Supershow 4/16:
Punk vs. Henry ***1/2
Bryan vs. Kingston ***
Tensai vs. Cena **

Punk and Henry continue to entertain with their ongoing mini-feud. This is a great place for Henry to be, as they can just keep plugging him into big title matches week after week and have him look dominant without ever winning the strap. This feud is very reminiscent of something from the Attitude Era when guys would fight every week but in the background is a bigger angle lingering. Makes for good television.

Bryan and Kofi both do decent work, even if I never really *believe* Kingston.

Absolutely love the Lord Tensai gimmick, in-ring work and all. Great to see him go over Cena and have it treated as a big deal. His slow and methodical pacing is fresh since he isn't Big Show or Kane. Anytime there is green mist in my wrestling I'm a f'n mark again.
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Maybe I slightly overrated Punk/Henry on first watch, but it's still my tv MOTY and still an easy **** for me. Just great fun stuff.
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On the conversation of WWE presenting the best product right now, it's leading everything in Japan by far. The only promotion in Japan that would be beating it only comes out with dvds like 8 months after the show happens.

As far as the States go, WWE beats the pants off of everybody there too.

Mexico is the only one where I disagree, I think CMLL and TXT have been consistently better this year. IWRG looked like it would be at the beginning of the year, but they haven't been that great since the end of January.
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What standout matches have WWE had this year apart from HHH/Taker, Punk/Jericho, Punk/Henry and Punk/Bryan? Not disputing that it's the best product right now, just wondering if there's anything I've missed. I've seen all the PPVs but I rarely watch TV matches unless they're highly pimped on here.

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I wouldn't include either Taker/HHH or Punk/Jericho. But both of the Punk/Henry matches, Daniel Bryan vs The Big Show/Mark Henry series up to the Royal Rumble cage match (which I liked more than most.) The Smackdown Elimination Chamber match, John Cena carrying The Rock to a decent match. Plus all the non-wrestling stuff with Brock has been fantastic, the same can be said with all the Daniel Bryan angles. Overall WWE has been really consistent this year, but for me they are still in need of a big time great match.
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I wouldn't include either Taker/HHH or Punk/Jericho. But both of the Punk/Henry matches, Daniel Bryan vs The Big Show/Mark Henry series up to the Royal Rumble cage match (which I liked more than most.) The Smackdown Elimination Chamber match, John Cena carrying The Rock to a decent match. Plus all the non-wrestling stuff with Brock has been fantastic, the same can be said with all the Daniel Bryan angles. Overall WWE has been really consistent this year, but for me they are still in need of a big time great match.
I'm hoping Extreme Rules can deliver that. Punk/Jericho in a Chicago street fight and Bryan/Shaemus in 2/3 falls have massive potential to be awesome, and Cena/Brock just has that HUGE match feel to it already. It feels like they should be doing that match at a bigger PPV like Summerslam. Still, I'm not going to complain, theres loads of people I would like to see Brock feud with until Mania next year.
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