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Old 04-08-2012, 04:41 AM   #541 (permalink)
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The 2 things that really sold me on that match were that spot and Daisuke doing a flying elbow to the neck instead of his usual frog splash. It gave the idea that Sekimoto wasn't doing his "formula" match and that he actually had a game plan. It's one of the few times were he actually showed he could work as the "Ace" and it worked perfectly as Sasaki is such a great underdog and he kinda has lived under Daisuke's "shadow" for a long time.

I liked Okada/Naito a lot but there's nothing I saw from that match (or Elgin/Davey, or any other bout I've seen this year so far) that comes close to what Daisuke, Yoshihito and Korakuen Hall did in the Strong Climb Final. I guess the fact I've been following Big Japan for years now and that I'm a massive mark for both guys made the match feel so important to me. I truly felt I was watching something special.
Yeah, the flying elbow to Sasaki's neck was awesome, even all of Sekimoto's forearms were directed straight at the neck. Definitely an awesome match but I'm not completely sold on Sasaki yet and thought his selling could have been better which is my only real complaint. But IMO, Sekimoto's performance in this is easily the best individual performance of the year by far, and it's gonna' take something incredible to top it.
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Old 04-08-2012, 06:00 AM   #542 (permalink)
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I really don't understand how Melzter rates all those All Japan matches 5 stars and didn't even give one Taker match 5. I don't even want to get started on vastly overrated he rated the Elgin and Richards match. They had no prior history at all with eachother and with that there was no way they would be able to tell a story with eachother. It was just a typical strong style indy and japan type match with a little more exaggerated kick outs and Elgin pulling out all the tricks in his bags which were amazing but nothing to give 5 stars to
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Old 04-08-2012, 06:23 AM   #543 (permalink)
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There's a lot of All Japan matches better than any Undertaker match.

He gave the first HIAC (Michaels/Taker) five stars, btw.
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Old 04-08-2012, 08:25 AM   #544 (permalink)
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this is my promotion Preston City Wrestling and the link is a match that was voted 3rd in the UK match of the year on a large UK wrestling forum.

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Old 04-08-2012, 08:32 AM   #545 (permalink)
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I don't think either HBK/Taker match warrants 5 if that's what you were referring too BKK. But yeh Meltzer's ratings are his and only his opinion. I mean Punk/Cena the best WWE match since 97? Davey/Elgin best ROH match since 06? It's crazy but oh well. At the end of the day we get hooked by different things, and whilst people have a set criteria, one part of that can be how gripped you are by a match and you never know what may do it to different people. For instance I think Aries/Nigel from Rising Above is the best match in ROH history but many will pick something else for there own reasons and it's just how it works. But I guess we as people like having that above power, to set some sort of example and give us a chance to compare opinions and when someone who has developed a reputation like Dave seems to go way off track we get bothered by it.
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Old 04-08-2012, 08:44 AM   #546 (permalink)
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I think he has always been pretty close to general consensus. Normaly only one rating off and that has normally been giving something ****3/4 instead of *****.
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Dave Meltzer has not given any Bryan Danielson match 5 stars , or Nigel too for that matter. That's one of the reasons I don't take him serious. Elgin vs Richards is so flawed compared to any Danielson/Nigel matches. It's a joke really.
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Doesn't seem like that much of a big deal or a reason not to take someone seriously.

I think you do take him seriously and that's why it matters.


He has always given them fair reviews.
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Why people take Meltzer seriously in 2012 is beyond me. Seriously, it's not 80s, folks. Move the fuck on. lolmeltzer

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Elgin and Richards match. They had no prior history at all with eachother and with that there was no way they would be able to tell a story with eachother.
What a horseshit. Lawls.
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To be honest, I don't think I've given a 5 star rating to any Bryan Danielson matches but he has allot of ****3/4 matches from me. I did give a five star to Richards/Danielson but I'm thinking about changing that to the border rating as well. Doesn't mean I think any less of Danielson but it's just that I don't believe he has that match yet.

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How in the hell do you play up a review? Its an expression of one's opinion on a match. Am I just being naiive or something because I really can't follow that trail of thought.
Being natural means he doesn't seem to be trying to nitpick. In your review, you would never give the match a positive before stacking on negatives. It is giving people the idea that you are trying your best to make the match seem as if it sucked. Hence you are playing up to something. Like I would never write a negative essay about something I don't really like or care to much about where as if a match impresses me so much, I'll sing the positives of it. That's why I have a big argument as to why Strong/Stevens is 5 stars and there is a reason why I don't have book on why Chris Hero/Castagnoli was a waste of fucking time. Get it?

edit: It can also mean you have no real emotion to it as well I believe.
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