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post #491 of 2789 (permalink) Old 04-05-2012, 06:52 PM
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**** 1/2. I thought it was one of the better matches of the year. TNA wasted Okada big time. And fuck Meltzer. Am I the only wrestling fan who never reads his stuff?
I ditched the Observer back in 2001. Say what you will about Meltzer's knowledge, analysis & contacts - he's the Vince Russo of wrestling journalism when it comes to punctuation & syntax.

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Finally watched Okada/Naitō. Really good stuff. Okada's talent doesn't quite seem fully-formed yet, but he definitely knows how to carry himself like a champion and hold up his end of a great match. There were a few too many instances for my liking of Okada blatantly favoring the leg at points when Naitō hadn't done anything to it in a while, and I'm not sure I like Naitō having so many counters to the Rainmaker before it's been more established as a lethal finisher, but these were hardly fatal flaws. My MOTY so far, though I'm really interested to see Richards/Elgin once Showdown in the Sun hits DVD. ****
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Richards vs Elgin Is Match Of The Year For ROH And The Best Match I've Seen In ROH In A Long Time. It Reminded Me Of The True Essence Of The Company. ****3/4-*****
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Well the finals of the BJW Ikkitousen Strong Climb gets tons of love on here but I have to say Callihan and Sasaki had an outstanding match if you don't mind all of the kick outs at the end ( over done finish). I'd say its at least ****1/2. Haven't seen the Finals yet but Im really looking forward to them.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Elgin

Go down to his accomplishments and you'll see it says under Wrestling Observer that the match with Richards was rated at 5 stars.
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I don't get what's that is supposed to signify? Dave Meltzer giving it ***** doesn't make it a ***** match, enjoying a match is entirely subjective and Meltzer like any of us has his personal tastes and style of matches he prefers to others.
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Heres everything Meltzer gave over **** for the weekend. (His thoughts on DGUSA won't arrive till next week)

Taker vs HHH - ****3/4
Steen vs Generico - Around ****
Richards vs Elgin - *****
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I don't get what's that is supposed to signify? Dave Meltzer giving it ***** doesn't make it a ***** match, enjoying a match is entirely subjective and Meltzer like any of us has his personal tastes and style of matches he prefers to others.
I'm glad someone here understands the concept of subjectivity.
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I don't get what's that is supposed to signify? Dave Meltzer giving it ***** doesn't make it a ***** match, enjoying a match is entirely subjective and Meltzer like any of us has his personal tastes and style of matches he prefers to others.
Closest thing to an "official rating" that we have and normally a great base rating to play off of.

Do you mean to tell me Meltzer's views are that of his own opinion and not fact? Go ahead and blow my mind why don't you.

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Closest thing to an "official rating" that we have and normally a great base rating to play off of.

Do you mean to tell me Meltzer's views are that of his own opinion and not fact? Go ahead and blow my mind why don't you.
There's no such thing as an official rating in the slightest. He's a man who knows his trivia and wrestling history.....but he doesn't know a better match than you or I. Every rating is entirely subjective, Meltzer could make a 30 minute review of why Taker/HHH is nearly a perfect match and Jawbreaker or someone else who differs in opinion could make just as good/if not better retort which convinces others to check out the match again.

Really this is a man who rated an Eddie/Mysterio SD WWE Title match in 2004 low because 'it wasn't Lucha'. Seriously what in the hell is that as a critique of the match? I get that because of his standing people think Dave Meltzer knows a better match than others but the truth is he doesn't. He's just a well known figure who publishes his own personal opinion of a series of matches, nothing more and nothing less.
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