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Old 03-02-2012, 05:29 AM   #251 (permalink)
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but Jima is a top notch Junior, and he can work longer matches effectively too.
God no. Did you watch his matches in KO last year that went over 25 minutes? They were fucking terrible.
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Atsushi Aoki is the best Junior.
Not even close. I thought he had a lot of promise a few years ago but he doesn't seem to have got any better. He's too bland and isn't that great of a worker to make up for it.
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God no. Did you watch his matches in KO last year that went over 25 minutes? They were fucking terrible.
The "fucking terrible" description is a ridiculous exaggeration. Absolutely ridiculous.
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Seabs, you're out of order. Humble yourself!
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It's not. They were genuinely really bad. The Hayato tags went to 30 minute draws with overtime for absolutely no reason and the crowd in the 2nd one were basically silent. Juniors should never wrestle that long but if they are then it needs to be a lot more than them kicking each other for 30 minutes. They had no structure, did nothing of interest and the crowds were shitty in all of them. They were as bad as Davey/Eddie from Final Battle. Slightly less stupid stuff but as equally hindered by them doing nothing for a really long stretch of time.

Kensuke Sasaki & Mitsuhiro Kitanomiya vs Jun Akiyama & Kenta Kobashi - Diamond Ring 11.02.2012
Oh I do love a great rookie tag and the best part is that they're so easy to do and get right. Kitanomiya puts in one of the best rookie performances I've seen recently though and really makes himself stand out from other rookies working a similar match. I don't often care for Akiyama but the exchanges with him and Kitanomiya were brilliant in this. Thoroughly enjoyed their opening segment with Akiyama just shrugging him off. Kitanomiya taking a rough one and bleeding added to it really well. Kitanomiya had everything you'd want from a guy in his position but especially load of fire and persistence. Akiyama complimented him really well in his role too. Sadly though Kobashi and Sasaki brought the match down whenever they got in so it was only great in parts rather than throughout. Kobashi was awful in this. It's no so much that he's old but it's the fact that he's so immobile that makes it no fun to watch him. Inevitable Kobashi/Sasaki chop exchange and it sucked and felt forced like they felt they had to do it because of 2005. Sasaki and Tenryu worked the same roles last year in the Tenryu Project 6 man where they just chop each other until one of them dies and they made it work. This was the total opposite of that. Could have done with a bit of time chopping off but it didn't drag much for long periods. Kitanomiya and Akiyama rocked a MOTYC despite how much Sasaki and Kobashi tried to drag it down.

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Watched Nakajima vs SHINGO from the same show. Good match I guess but NO to being a MOTYC. Maybe I just want more than wrestling from my matches with the current stuff. Felt too heavily reliant on a kick strike formula.
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Daisuke Sekimoto vs Yuji Okabayashi - BJW 26.02.2012
I was nervous that this wouldn't be great but damn me for ever doubting these two in BJW because they NEVER fail to deliver these days. I was expecting more of a early 90's Steiners bomb fest from them but it was far from being that but they still made it work in their own unique way. They take a while to really get going but the feeling out process is really good and it works that start off slower with the partner vs partner deal and not wanting to make a mistake against the other because they no they can get punished for it. Yuji is amazing yet again and I promise you come 2012 he'll be rule of the entire world. He really brings to Daisuke and the crowd go nuts for him which was wonderful. Eventually towards the end it breaks down into more of a heavyweight style bomb fest but in a good way because once they bust out the heavy artillery you know the finish is coming soon because nobody can take their bombs for long. I do wish wrestlers wouldn't headbutt each other really hard but if it's gonna happen then this was the match to do it in because it was a great strong man match. They went about in a slightly different way to Sugiura/Sasaki last year but with an equally great outcome at the end of it. I love matches where the lower guys gets put over huge but they still keep the hierarchy in tact with the higher guy on the card being pushed to the limit but still claiming the victory. Loads of great near falls on Daisuke. At the risk of sound like a bit of a hypocrite I kinda wished they'd done a kickout or two more with Yuji to get over his fire but far better to be wanting more than doing too many. Got the feeling from the result they might do this match again in the Final with Yuji going over. That or they'll do Sasaki vs Shinobu in the final at last.

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Just watched this and this pretty much sums it up. I thought it was a bit too slow at first, but once they got going it was awesome. Those headbutts were nasty though, made me cringe.
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Saying Nakajima is the best junior while Marvin is alive is blasphemy.
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So just curious. Where Kotaro Suzuki falls into the "Best Juniors" discussions?
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Old 03-03-2012, 06:29 PM   #259 (permalink)
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Pretty high, IMO.
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I really don't get the Ricky Marvin love to be honest. He kind of annoys me.
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