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Old 12-24-2012, 06:06 PM   #2441 (permalink)
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All on Dailymotion?

*zooms over and favorites as I write this post*

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Eddie Edwards vs Michael Elgin - PWG Failure To Communicate
I fucking loved this and I am totally ashamed of myself for it. I have no idea how to explain why but I'll give it a go. Biggest factor was the PWG environment. Steen + Excalibur commentary + Reseda crowd means I'm bound to at least the enjoy the match, even if it's abysmal. This isn't your average Davey Richards match full of no selling, stupid mannerisms and generally horrible. The big stuff had me marking out and there was enough neat little touches for me to really appreciate it. Little stuff like Elgin trying to protect his chest from the chops because this is fucking Eddie Edwards chopping him, Elgin's struggle to hit the Chaos Theory suplex and the bucklebomb and Elgin climbing the ropes intentionally slow when Eddie was due to cut him off. I thought Eddie's selling was really great. In fairness Eddie normally does good sell jobs when the match isn't back and forth for 30 minutes. Elgin actually looked like a powerhouse in this rather than a small guy doing strong man moves which is often the case. He looked dangerous and it actually felt like Edwards was facing a challenge to survive with Elgin rather than a load of moves with no context. Elgin hits a lot harder than usual and that made up for a lot. The strike battle in the corner I particularly loved because Elgin really laid into those short lariats. Eddie's running kick when he totally clears the top rope was nuts in the best way possible and a great transition sequence. The match felt structured too. Opening battle to gain the upper hand which Elgin wins. Into Elgin dominating Edwards for a bit until Eddie hits something out of nothing to get back into the match. Then into the struggle for the finish. Benefited the match a ton at the end because it felt like they'd come to a significant point in the match rather than just another turn in the tale. Elgin's got that finishing run over really well in PWG which is extremely ironic given where he works the majority of his matches. At BOLA he fucking beat everyone bar Cole with the same sequence. So when he goes for that buckle bomb here and Eddie counters it it's fucking huge rather than just another counter of another move. Elgin's spinning back fist finally looked viscous too. Just the right amount of time too. Long enough for them to get enough stuff in for it to rule but short it enough for it to be fast paced and not drag. This ruled. I've completely lost my mind. Michael Elgin is the best wrestler in the world. I've seen the light now.

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Young Bucks vs El Generico & Kenny Omega - PWG Failure To Communicate
Excalibur asked Knox something during this along the lines of "why do they do that" to which Knox replied "I have no other idea but it makes the crowd hate them". Or something along those lines. Point is that it hit the nail on the motherfucking head about why the Bucks are so awesome as heels. They're the douchebags that everyone has known at some point who think everything they do is genius when it really isn't and everything they do makes you want to kick their heads in. This in a pro wrestling environment is what makes pro wrestling work. They. Are. The. Fucking. Best. I'm seriously considering them for WOTY right now. I don't give a fuck if they're a tag team. Oh and on the other side is Generico and Omega. Eh. Not bad. Omega's Bill Kazmaier look was odd. Looked as though he was in town and decided to work the show without being in any way prepared. Kinda came off that way in the ring a bit. Let Generico/Bucks do the meat of the match and Omega comes in does his thing. Fortunately Omega has got good enough to be able to do this and still be really good. 99 times out 99.1 I'd hate the arm wrestling segment. With these guys though it was one of the best things ever. Nick and Generico fighting on the outside like it was a pin off a finisher was amazing. Pro wrestling people. This is what pro wrestling is. Not moves and kicks. This. Characters, goofiness, stories and action. Nick springboarding 50 feet in the air onto Omega's back to break up an arm wrestling contest on an Indy show in 2012 is beyond what words can detail. Bucks working over Generico is always gonna be great. It's as much of a given as New Years Day will fall on January 1st. Some things happen for a reason and don't change. Finishing stretch I thought was the weakest part of the match but still really good. Maybe went a tad long in the middle and tad to little time to actually lay a match out between the four of them. Actual finish itself was great though. Generico and Bucks need to tour outside of Reseda more god damn it.

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Eddie Edwards vs Michael Elgin - PWG Failure To Communicate
I fucking loved this and I am totally ashamed of myself for it. I have no idea how to explain why but I'll give it a go. Biggest factor was the PWG environment. Steen + Excalibur commentary + Reseda crowd means I'm bound to at least the enjoy the match, even if it's abysmal. This isn't your average Davey Richards match full of no selling, stupid mannerisms and generally horrible. The big stuff had me marking out and there was enough neat little touches for me to really appreciate it. Little stuff like Elgin trying to protect his chest from the chops because this is fucking Eddie Edwards chopping him, Elgin's struggle to hit the Chaos Theory suplex and the bucklebomb and Elgin climbing the ropes intentionally slow when Eddie was due to cut him off. I thought Eddie's selling was really great. In fairness Eddie normally does good sell jobs when the match isn't back and forth for 30 minutes. Elgin actually looked like a powerhouse in this rather than a small guy doing strong man moves which is often the case. He looked dangerous and it actually felt like Edwards was facing a challenge to survive with Elgin rather than a load of moves with no context. Elgin hits a lot harder than usual and that made up for a lot. The strike battle in the corner I particularly loved because Elgin really laid into those short lariats. Eddie's running kick when he totally clears the top rope was nuts in the best way possible and a great transition sequence. The match felt structured too. Opening battle to gain the upper hand which Elgin wins. Into Elgin dominating Edwards for a bit until Eddie hits something out of nothing to get back into the match. Then into the struggle for the finish. Benefited the match a ton at the end because it felt like they'd come to a significant point in the match rather than just another turn in the tale. Elgin's got that finishing run over really well in PWG which is extremely ironic given where he works the majority of his matches. At BOLA he fucking beat everyone bar Cole with the same sequence. So when he goes for that buckle bomb here and Eddie counters it it's fucking huge rather than just another counter of another move. Elgin's spinning back fist finally looked viscous too. Just the right amount of time too. Long enough for them to get enough stuff in for it to rule but short it enough for it to be fast paced and not drag. This ruled. I've completely lost my mind. Michael Elgin is the best wrestler in the world. I've seen the light now.

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If I watch that match and hate it, I'm going to e-punch you as hard as I can imagine doing since it's technologically impossible.
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El Generico vs Kota Ibushi (DDT 21/10)
Holy shit balls. This fucking ruled. Seriously a brilliant match, with a great story. This is the last match they had together this year, and the story is basically that they know each other inside out, and holy shit they played it so well. Ibushi gets a short control segment on Generico working over his mid-section, it doesn't last long, but it didn't need to. Generico still sells it beacuse, well, he's Generico and he's wonderful like that. They always seem to be one step ahead of each other somehow and there are some amazing sequences and counters. Absolutely adored the finishing run. They counter everything, so there's no overkill on moves, and when they do hit the moves it creates some great nearfalls, despite me knowing who won. Ibushi even goes for the Yakuza kick - Brainbustah combo because he can't hit his own moves and it's a great moment. There's even a suplex exchange that I liked because it fit with the context of the match, Ibushi hits a dragon suplex and Generico gets up and hits a half nelson out of desperation because he knows he absolutely has to in order to prevent Ibushi from following up, and it's not like he didn't sell it either, he was still barely able to stand afterwards. Seriously, I was marking out big time at some of the stuff they did in the final minutes, and the finish was absolutely perfect for the story of the match and everything they did that proceeded it. Fanfuckingtastic, and I'd rate it just below my favourite New Japan matches this year, and it's easily the best Jr style match this year imo.
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at Seabs review of Eddie/Elgin. Not the fact that you liked the match, just the fact that you seem confused as to why you did. I enjoyed it a lot tbh. Oh yeah, think I mentioned it in my review, but Eddies kick to Elgin when he wa son the apron was fucking incredible.

Glad to see you liked the tag match too. Great shit.

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quick question before I watch: Bubz, does that Generico vs Ibushi match rape their match in ROH/Chikara?
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Not seen the CHIKARA match, but yeah it's loads better than the ROH match imo.
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I creamed over the other matches so YES. (Chikara was a 4 way but they interacted so I said fuck it, it counts)
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Ohhhhh, that 4 way. Yeah I liked it more than that too . It's got a much better story than any of the other matches they've had (that I've seen anyway), it's not as spot heavy either due to the fact they literally have counters to each others counters and it's awesome. What spots they do hit actually fit into the story too so it's a bonus.
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4 way was pretty infamous among fans. Figured you've seen it.

Sounds stellar. Debating which way I want to start right now. Probably best to knock Generico vs Ibushi out of the way. Then finish on through Power Struggle '12. Then Osaka Pro show, and ending with random ROH dvd. Maybe I'll cram some Joshi in there. Got Chikara too, but today seems more of a Puro day. Fuck RAW tonight. I'll save that for later when I'm probably drunk with my brother over the Holidays.
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Brodie Lee vs. Jay Freddie vs. Matt Milan vs. Jason Axe-2CW(4/14/12):****
I saw this match live and let me say that this came off even better on DVD. No one is probably going to believe me, or if they saw it might not like it as much as I since I have some bias here, but this match was damn good. You have Lee, current 2CW champion at the time despite not physically having the belt, in his last independent wrestling match before going to development. You also have Matt Milan who had beat Lee a couple of months prior, Jay Freddie a the man who had just lost the belt the previous night, and Jason Axe who will probably always be Freddie’s most bitter rival as long as they are in 2CW. Freddie and Axe go at each other hard in this match and one instance in particular Axe yells at Freddie, “I’m the Juggernaut[which is Axe’s nickname] bitch!” which Freddie replies with a tombstone.

Something 2CW did wonderfully here that they for some reason they didn’t follow through with was Freddie turning heel in this match. Horrible booking on their part to not acknowledge this in the future but if they had actually followed through with it then it would have came off very well just by this one match. To eliminate his biggest nemesis he smacks him in the back with a chair(which probably wasn’t needed since Milan just booted him the chest after being eliminated).That would get it down to him and Brodie which was the best part of the match. Freddie is running his mouth towards Brodie so he gets nailed with a boot. When Freddie gets on offense he throws in a debatably low shot as well as holding the trunks when going for pins. All Brodie really needed to finish this newly pissed off former champion was an absolutely SICKKKKKKKKKKK running Liger Bomb off a counter in the corner! Fun stuff.
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