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post #2431 of 2789 (permalink) Old 12-23-2012, 09:29 PM
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Young Bucks vs. Kenny Omega & El Generico
So. Much. FUN! Loved this. Omega came off as so much fucking better than almost everyone on the roster btw, excluding guys like Bucks and Generico. It's the way he carries himself, his mannerisms as well as his fluidity in the ring and his ability to string a combination or sequence together so much better. His time in Japan really has done wonders for him because he came off as a superstar in the PWG roster that the fans were amazed to see back in the ring. Starts off comedy based, the arm wrestling thing was awesome. Great control segment on Generico by Bucks, as if anything else was ever possible. Transition into the hot tag ruled completely. Finishing run is absolutely fantastic, awesome sequences and transitions, great selling by Generico, Bucks getting cocky costing them, some really good near falls and it never goes into overkill and finishes just at the right time. Finish is awesome as hell to boot. Brilliant tag match, and the best of the year, liked it more than the ladder match and the Guerilla warfare match. Loved it!
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I'm throwing in this one. Tokyo Sports was right.

Tomohiro Ishii vs Masato Tanaka, NEVER Tournament, November 15 2012 - **** 1/2

Absolute Strong Style war. From the get go, there were strike exchanges. No holding back. Just throwing forearms, chops, headbutts, slaps, and enough fighting spirit to create another generation of Indy copycats (*cough*AmericanWolves*cough*).

However, like a good strong style fight, there was lots of selling, more from Ishii than Tanaka. There was a time when Ishii looked totally spent, and Tanaka was egging him on for a good minute or so, building up Ishii's spirit for the next half of the match. There are other fun moments like this. And it wasn't like they hate each other: they are on the same stable. Hell, they HUGGED after the match.

Yet they fought like it was for the IWGP Heavyweight Title. So awesome.


If you liked Ishii vs Goto, great. This is better.
"Strong Style" this is not. They went out there and said "we shall wrestle evenly" and went through their wide collection of typical segments all stiff and fighting spirit-like. This suffers from Masato Tanaka being predictable and his half of the no-selling was lazy. It was really, really cooperative to the point it took away some from me. Ishii, while good, didn't give a master performance like vs Goto. They put some new stuff together at the end, with some good counters and a couple good transitions, but like a lot of the match it was all too "wait for each other"-y to be amazing. Props for giving this much away in a semifinal match on a throwaway show but blah, not nearly as good as I was hoping for. Not to say it was under four stars cause it really is quite good but it's not excellent. ****





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Tomohiro Ishii vs Masato Tanaka - NEVER 15.11.2012
Isn't as great as the Goto/Ishii match but it's fun, short and Ishii delivers once again. Tanaka sucks nearly every time these days and didn't add anything to it. His selling felt phony when he did sell and he had his usual no sell spots that are just annoying. He strikes hard though and he's fine getting hit just as hard and in the context of this match that was enough. Ishii's selling was wonderful I thought. Both short and long term. Put Tanaka's strikes over great and got the hierarchy level of super. Ishii's a master at making himself look legit while still maintaining the roster hierarchy. His selling always made it feel like he was in a uphill battle but he's fucking Ishii and he aint going down till he's down. More meat for arguing how good Ishii is, even with lesser workers which Tanaka certainly is.

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Shinsuke Nakamura & Tomohiro Ishii vs Kazuchika Okada & YOSHI-HASHI - NJPW 21.11.2012
Now this is where it's fucking at. Possibly my no gimmick tag MOTY, certainly top 3 at the very least. Nakamura and Okada create magic when they're against each other. Them 2 main eventing a PPV is the one match I NEED to see at some point. I just adore them trying to outswag each other and mocking each others poses. YOSHI-HASHI fucking sucks but the other 3 guys in a New Japan tag is more than enough to make up for it. The good thing about YOSHI-HASHI being at the very bottom of the roster barrel is that it means Ishii gets to work as the bully rather than the victim. Shock altert, Ishii's just as good playing the bully as he is playing the victim. Control segment on YH is really great with Ishii and Nakamura just having fun having their way with him. Thought the control segment was gonna be split in two when it ends halfway through the match but instead there's a great struggle segment for control which transitions beautifully into the finish. Nakamura just stomping on Okada's toes to regain control ruled the world. Everything they do together is just amazing and everything Ishii does is brilliant too. Only down part is when YH runs through his moveset on Nakamura and sucks the life out of the match momentarily. Then Okada comes back in and we get back to the greatness we were at before in an instant. Wonderful stuff. Watch this and then imagine how good it could have been with someone better than YH in there.

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NJPW Final World Tag League 2 Diciembre 2012

1. Kengo Mashimo, Minoru Suzuki, Taichi & TAKA Michinoku vs BUSHI, Masaaki Mochizuki, Ryusuke Taguchi & Yuji Nagata (11.42) *3/4
2. Jado & YOSHI-HASHI vs Rush & Diamante Azul (8.24) *1/4
3. Semifinal World Tag League Semi-Final Match: Killer Elite Squad (Davey Boy Smith Jr. & Lance Archer) vs Togi Makabe & Wataru Inoue (12.08) **1/4
4. NJPW World Tag League Semi-Final Match: Sword and Guns (Hirooki Goto & Karl Anderson) vs TenKoji (Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima) (14.41) **1/2
5. Manabu Nakanishi & Strong Man vs Toru Yano & Takashi Iizuka (3.50) 1/2*
6. Manabu Nakanishi, Strong Man, MVP & Shelton Benjamin vs Masato Tanaka, Toru Yano, Takashi Iizuka & Yujiro Takahashi (8.18) *1/2
7. Laughter 7 (Katsuyori Shibata & Kazushi Sakuraba) vs Shinsuke Nakamura & Tomohiro Ishii (9.20) **3/4
8. Kazuchika Okada & Gedo vs Hiroshi Tanahashi & KUSHIDA (15.19) **1/2
9. NJPW World Tag League Final Match: Sword and Guns (Hirooki Goto & Karl Anderson) vs Killer Elite Squad (Davey Boy Smith Jr. & Lance Archer) (15.37) **1/2
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Re: The 2012 MOTYC thread

Think you posted that in the wrong thread .

Must watch that Okada/Nakamura tag tonight! MUST!
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Son of a. How did a tag with Nakamura & Okada on OPPOSING sides slip by me?

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Re: The 2012 MOTYC thread

I was thinking the same.

For anyone who watches DDT, how many Generico/Ibishi matches have there been this year? Think I remember hearing they had a series or something culminating in Generico winning the belt? And are they good?
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Lesnar/Cena is far and ahead my MOTY, probably will be remember as one of the best matches in the history of the company. The build for the cena comeback is probably one of the best i have ever seen.

After that i have two lucha matches: Angel Blanco Jr./El Hijo del Solitario vs. El Hijo Del Santo/Villano IV - TXT 2/25 and Blue Panther vs Negro Casas - CMLL 3/2
Forgot to ask but do you or anyone else have a link to that tag match?


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I was thinking the same.

For anyone who watches DDT, how many Generico/Ibishi matches have there been this year? Think I remember hearing they had a series or something culminating in Generico winning the belt? And are they good?
I think there were three - one at Max Bump in April or May, then two in short succession in September & October. They're all on dailymotion & yeah, they're definitely worth a watch.

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