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Old 12-22-2012, 01:39 PM   #2411 (permalink)
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Kahagas vs Damien Wayne(NWA)-Just watched this based off recommendations a few posts back. Pretty fun brawl and Damien Wayne's accent reminds me of Steve Austin right off the bat. I too thought the blood might not have been needed but still I guess it did add to the brutality. Loved the crowd getting involved, Kahagas stumbles to the ring and pushes fans out of the way. An older guy then yells out "Hey! You didn't have to push me like that!" Another match that showcases shorter matches sometimes doing the job better than long drawn out matches. The commentator really sold the craziness of the match too. Also really loved the fact that there were barely any 'wrasslin' moves used. As far as I remember there were only 3: Chops, Leg Drops and Body Slams. The rest of the match was just straight up fighting and limited weapon use, an all around fun brawl.

Thanks for the recommendation.
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Old 12-22-2012, 03:31 PM   #2412 (permalink)
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Kahagas vs Damien Wayne(NWA)-Just watched this based off recommendations a few posts back. Pretty fun brawl and Damien Wayne's accent reminds me of Steve Austin right off the bat. I too thought the blood might not have been needed but still I guess it did add to the brutality. Loved the crowd getting involved, Kahagas stumbles to the ring and pushes fans out of the way. An older guy then yells out "Hey! You didn't have to push me like that!" Another match that showcases shorter matches sometimes doing the job better than long drawn out matches. The commentator really sold the craziness of the match too. Also really loved the fact that there were barely any 'wrasslin' moves used. As far as I remember there were only 3: Chops, Leg Drops and Body Slams. The rest of the match was just straight up fighting and limited weapon use, an all around fun brawl.

Thanks for the recommendation.
I totally forgot to mention that in my review but because the match was so damn good I completely for about it. And he played the crowd really well, like Austin would. "They're here to see a fight!" The guy's good.
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Old 12-22-2012, 03:55 PM   #2413 (permalink)
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Yeah I already like the guy based off that one match. Will be interesting to see where his career goes in the next few years.
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Old 12-22-2012, 04:56 PM   #2414 (permalink)
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Rush vs. Terrible-CMLL(Hair vs. Hair-9/14/12):****1/4
I’ve watched this match twice now, the TV version as well as a fancam version, and I thought this match was fan-friggin’-tastic. I’m not going to lie, I know next to nothing about Lucha and this is honestly only the second lucha match I’ve seen all year so I don’t know how the matches are supposed to be structured or what not. I also have know idea who Rush or Terrible are. All I know after watching this match is Rush is giant dick. Taking time to soak in all the boos he was receiving. Rush clearly loved it. He totally made this match. Without his pure dickishness (that’s not a word but Rush exemplifies it) Terrible’s comebacks wouldn’t have been nearly as great as they were. Terrible is doing topes on Rush and on what would be the last in the sequence, Rush moves and slams Terrible’s head into the barrier while Terrible is in the air. Oh and those comebacks were awesome. I, a non-lucha guy who doesn’t know anything about either man here, was cheering for Terrible when he got on the attack just because how much of an ass Rush was being. The fancam showed some awkward moments but not enough to bring down the rating.
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WWE MOTY - John Cena vs Brock Lesnar ~ ****3/4

Honest definition of EPIC.

Only matches I've liked at the same level was Tanahashi vs Suzuki & Okada vs Naito I.
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:58 AM   #2416 (permalink)
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This was around the time I stopped having time to watch any wrestling. I seriously need to watch this show! I can't believe I forgot about it.

Did you, by chance, manage to watch the rest of the anniversary show? I've read Puma King/Rey Cometa was the better match. It was the bout that had me invested in the card, too.

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El Terrible Vs Rush (cabellera contra cabellera)
Part 1 (HD) || Part 2 (HD)

Typical CMLL booking here for the first two falls. Short, uneventful and filler just to allow for the longer, third fall. Sometimes they get it right but, honestly, this type of booking annoys the hell out of me. To hell with "lucha tradition", book a single-fall (non-lightning) match if that's what you're going for. Sloppy first fall pin, and if you blinked you'd have missed the second. Yawn.

The third fall, though, is possibly everything that is right with lucha (or wrong, depending on how you see Rush). Everything here was about purpose, that "play-time" was over and that it was now time to be more serious in how they faced each other. Each move was made to count, each moment made to play off their dynamic. Rush's lack of respect for Terrible, for instance, was perfectly exemplified by his viciously stiff running dropkick straight to Terrible's jaw.

"Vamos Terrible!" shirts and signs were seen in abundance (and the camera made good note of the women wearing them), but the outcome was always going to be Rush as your winner. Everyone knew this but, credit where its due, CMLL did build up hope for the impossible. Going into the match, Terrible was your country hero (having pinned Tanahashi, a feat Rush failed in doing) and at a seemingly obvious advantage. Apparently the live-cam captures more of Terrible's closeness in pulling off an upset victory than this, but the moment was still brought across here. Post-match, though, the symbolism of victor/loser is seemingly reversed. Rush might have won, but at what price? The loser is cheered while the winner's not only booed out of the arena but pelted with rubbish on his way out. The fact that Rush had to put Terrible away with a piledriver (a move that's enjoyed a very slippery slope in terms of its legality within the lucha world) also cannot sit well with him.

It'll be interesting to see where CMLL takes Rush from here. Simplistically, Rush reminds me of CM Punk (the arrogant good guy) its just too bad (for CMLL's bookers) that he's hated as much as he is, as they don't seem to be able to make money from this very idea.

A good highlight to their feud, and the best match of the series. If you've watched their title matches then you owe it to yourself to watch this. Not a blow-away MotY but still one of the better lucha matches of this year.
Rating: ****
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I haven't seen Puma King vs. Rey Commeta but admittedly I just don't watch lucha much at all. Between working, video games, other wrestling, and school(which I don't have right now so I'm trying to catch up right now on some stuff before the year ends) I usually don't have time for it. As far as Rush/Terrible I'm glad I didn't enjoy it an abnormal amount compared to someone who actually enjoys lucha. Was debating on whether to even post my review :P
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I'm sure you're thoughts were pretty spot on. When Lucha is done right, you just know. It's 9/10 excellent.

You like Chikara. I'm surprised that hasn't given you some Lucha knowledge right there, haha. Like a Cibernetico match for an example.
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I know how Cibernetico's work, the tag rules, but then I hear lightning matches(1 fall sprints from what I've gathered?), maestro matches, and how title matches are a almost a completely different style of lucha compared to wager matches(more hate?).Chikara definitely has shown me more of the concepts of lucha as in regards to some match types and the such but as far as how all these matches in lucha tend to be structured it hasn't been as helpful haha.
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That's true, that's true. haha. Well, best way to get into the product is to do what you did. Jump right in and watch. I'd say a good event to introduce you to more Lucha would be the When World's Collide show from 1994. It's got English commentary, loads of famous stars, and some really, really great matches on it.
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