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**Obfuscation** · 12-22-2012, 08:49 AM

I've said the same thing. Try going to an indie event live and trying to talk to someone about WWE. Fucking idiot wouldn't even put ONE aspect of the company over. This was years ago btw. I was trying to talk about how awesome Punk being World Champion was. The guy's excuses and shaking his head over and over was hilarious. The only flaw then was ROH was actually still in a great place. Now when people try that it's even more baffling, frustrating, annoying.

That's how I rate matches. I can't give a match I don't like something decent or good. That's solid logic. "I hated this match. But it was pretty good." That...that doesn't work. Now there can be a match where someone isn't crazy about it, but they realize it wasn't bad. That philosophy is fine. Like for me, I really don't like Michaels vs Angle from WrestleMania 21. So I don't give it a good rating. That's all these snowflakes are used for. As a reference to know where you place things at. No different than any other ranking system out there. It comes down to quality & preference.

Tanahashi vs Suzuki & Okada vs Naito are both at ****3/4 for me. Tanahashi vs Okada II is at ****1/2. Tremendous matches. I've put those over all the time in this thread.

The Corre · 12-22-2012, 08:49 AM

I thought Richards/Elgin was awesome (from Showdown In The Sun, haven't seen any others). I'd definitely rate it 5 stars. One of the most enjoyable matches I have seen all year. Though as I have said in the past I look for way different things in a match than most people (especially people here in Other Wrestling).

enlightenedone9 · 12-22-2012, 08:50 AM

sharkboy22, I'm curious to here what some of your favorite WWE matches are from this year. You clearly are not a fan of the indy style, which is fine by me, so I'd be interested to hear what you loved in the WWE. They have no doubt had some great matches.

sharkboy22 · 12-22-2012, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusade

Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Kazuchika Okada: **** 1/2

Tetsuya Naito vs Kazuchika Okada: **** 1/4

Okada is becoming one of my favourite wrestlers at the moment. Great worker, plus his theme is badass.

Is it weird that I find him to be like a Japanese Randy Orton? There's something about his mannerisms that are Orton-like.

**Obfuscation** · 12-22-2012, 08:56 AM

I'm gonna say it's weird. b/c Okada has a charismatic presence. Something Randal tends to lack.

While Orton is a consistent worker, I'd say he's nowhere near the level of consistent that Okada is currently rocking.

Crusade · 12-22-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sharkboy22

Is it weird that I find him to be like a Japanese Randy Orton? There's something about his mannerisms that are Orton-like.

I've never thought of that comparison I will admit.

I need to rewatch Tanahashi vs Suzuki again. Had it at **** 1/4 - **** 1/2 on first watch. The whole of NJPW KOPW is phenomenal. My favourite wrestling show I've seen all year.

sharkboy22 · 12-22-2012, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by enlightenedone9

sharkboy22, I'm curious to here what some of your favorite WWE matches are from this year. You clearly are not a fan of the indy style, which is fine by me, so I'd be interested to hear what you loved in the WWE. They have no doubt had some great matches.

Hmmm, WWE 2012 has been strange for me. There's been a handful of great matches but for some reason none of them really stand out to me. maybe Michaels/Taker have completely spoiled me and my expectations of a match of the year. The only match that's truly WWE MOTY for me is Lesnar/Cena.

As for the other matches I enjoyed:

Sheamus/D-Bryan WM XXVIII fantastic match. 18 seconds of pure wrestling. lol jk. I'm obviously referring to their Extreme Rules match

Punk/Jericho ER
Cena/Punk NOC
The Shield vs Team Hell No/Ryback

There are some other matches I'm sure but I can't think of them now. Two matches this year that I'm not as crazy about as other people are Taker/Trips and Jericho/Punk WM 28. Taker/Trips I have at ***1/2 and Jericho/Punk is at ***3/4. The reason, well I think I've posted enough about those two matches all year long. Especially Taker/HHH.

**Hohenheim of Light** · 12-22-2012, 09:32 AM

MOTY: Brock/Cena ER

**Ham and Egger** · 12-22-2012, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sharkboy22

Is it weird that I find him to be like a Japanese Randy Orton? There's something about his mannerisms that are Orton-like.

I think of him like a Randy Orton too. Just with a lot more charisma!

JoeRulz · 12-22-2012, 10:05 AM

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Got around to watching SSB vs YB's from Death to Metal and that match blew me away. I didn't think it could top the 3 way ladder match but it really did for me. Easily my MOTY from the US.

Ummm, yeah. Agreed. Chaos and mayhem. And NICK JACKSON! The match beautifully consists of 3 phases - violent and chaotic ringside brawling, which culminated with Stupefied's ridiculous dive, then there was that long segment where the Bucks controlled stuff, and it was beautiful. Finally, the finishing stretch was insane.
Rating: *****

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Can Sharkboy stop looking for excuses to post about how shit indie wrestling is please. We all know what you think and the majority of people agree with you. It's getting fucking tedious.

Meh, just put him on the ignore list, like I did. He's horrible, he even called Aries "vanilla midget piece of shit" once.