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Old 12-18-2012, 09:29 PM   #2331 (permalink)
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I do hope you know the smile was because of that little joke you made and in no way I was laughing at you. There's no way I'd make fun of an official WWE DVD/Match/Show Discussion peep lol.

I'm all for Rollins busting out the odd move here or there but it's when it becomes a habit I have a problem with it. Before you know it every match would be Rollins just doing crazy ass moved with no sort of structure or meaning to the match.
Wasn't sure. Your post almost sounded as if you were questioning the basis of my statement. It appears you weren't jumping the gun. That's good to know. My bad.

I'm sure being in WWE all 3 of them will know to be more grounded with their offense. Nor would I even accuse Rollins of going overkill in the first place. He's not bad at that stuff, imo.
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Which is EXACTLY what I said from the get-go. However, I actually explained why it's not a 5 star classic.
The Blackout spot didn't work, for example. You do the hardcore version of that move? Why? 89% of your audience saw that move for the very 1st time. I mean, you can clearly hear the "wtf was that?.." reaction. Also, someone said that Ryback's ugly attack/tackle on Roman was "awesomely real" or whatever. It actually looked like both fuckers are gassed out (which was obviously the case) and like it's gonna be on the next addition of Botchamania.
I loved Ryback's spot on Reign's. I thought it added a lot to the match and it wasn't much.

And I don't think anyone considers this match to be a 5 star classic. I think everyone acknowledges it a fun match that really made The Shield look like stars. Everyone as a matter of fact looked like stars but the match was set out to get the Shield over and they did exactly that.

Now I don't consider it MOTY and it isn't a contender but it's definitely a top 10 for me. But very low in the top 10.

There's just something special about the match. It was a brilliantly worked match and if I were to re-watch it(which I have) I wouldn't have liked to see it be worked any other way but that way.
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Ryback & Reigns crashing into the plunder was one of my favorite spots. Captured the essence of it being a wild war perfectly.

btw, the debate was never about it being a "classic 5 star MOTY" in the first place. It was only about some fans always asking for too much from matches.
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:50 PM   #2334 (permalink)
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* = Bad. ** = Average. *** = Good. **** = Great. ***** = Perfect
Almost everyone is just licking the macth's balls but giving it the exact same (or almost the exact same) rating - ****+. If it's not *****, then it's not perfect. If it's not perfect, say why it isnt perfect.

Another complaint btw - Yes, i din't like (read: wasnt perfect) the double superplex spot as well. Too basic (like I already mentioned) for a TLC match and/or not enough brawlish, so to speak, for this particular match.

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Old 12-18-2012, 10:20 PM   #2335 (permalink)
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The Shield vs. Ryback/Team Hell No(TLC):****
Look what we got here. So much chaos it was wonderful. This felt to me as all the Shield's segments coming in allowed to play out in a match. They plugged in the Ryback table spot on the Spanish Announce Table (RIP Spanish Announce Table for the 168941354 time)which was nice and I'm glad they did it more in the middle of the match then have it during the end. Whenever the Shield was on offense they were doing it with at least two members working over a member of the opposition at a time. It was usually the smaller Rollins and Ambrose working over someone in the ring while Reigns was making sure the other members of the team stayed down. I'm convinced that Ryback is portraying a character who is on steroids. He throws people around and then goes straight into dead mode when he's on defense and then he goes back into rage mode when on offense. The one time I felt like Ryback wasn't inhumanly balanced was where he threw Seth Rollins off the ladder into the tables(sweet spot by the way where Rollins had nowhere to go after getting so high up) and crawled away after all the damage he had taken. I somewhat jest. Continuing on, Daniel Bryan looked like a scrappy fighter,nay,warrior which was GREAT!Reigns looked like an animal and if this dude can talk even a little the WWE has got something there. As far as spots go(which is clearly becoming this big thing I suppose)I thought they which just smashing. Ambrose getting chokeslammed on the chair, which Rollins would later use a piece of as a weapon was awesome. Rollins hitting the Blackout on Bryan on the chair was sick. Reigns tackling Kane through the barricade was well done with them burying Kane in the wreckage afterwards. Wasn't HUGE on Ryback SMASHING Reigns into all the shit, but that doesn't mean I didn't think it was friggin' sweet. Can we just not talk about SPOTZ like this. Its weird and makes me uncomfortable. Honestly this was a damn fun match with something enjoyable happening at seemingly any given moment.
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Final Battle

Kevin Steen vs. El Generico - **** 1/4

TLC

The Shield vs. Ryback and Team Hell No - ****
Dolph Ziggler vs. John Cena - ****
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This thread was fun again for a few days the other week
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I'll go into detail about it later but the main event to TLC was probably one of the worst Ladder matches I have seen. You can put me down as someone that agrees that the Shield vs. Ryback & Team Hell No was great though.
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* = Bad. ** = Average. *** = Good. **** = Great. ***** = Perfect
Almost everyone is just licking the macth's balls but giving it the exact same (or almost the exact same) rating - ****+. If it's not *****, then it's not perfect. If it's not perfect, say why it isnt perfect.

Another complaint btw - Yes, i din't like (read: wasnt perfect) the double superplex spot as well. Too basic (like I already mentioned) for a TLC match and/or not enough brawlish, so to speak, for this particular match.
Yeah, but even that spot made psychological sense within the context of the match. The superplex to Bryan ended up wrecking his back for a good chunk of the match, enabling Reigns and Ambrose to capitalize in the way they did at the end. Normally, the ending spot would have looked fairly weak, especially compared to the bump just taken by Rollins moments earlier. But, in conjunction with that superplex, it looked a lot stronger.
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This thread was fun again for a few days the other week
Just wait until Janurary 4th: the topics will switch back to legitimate discussion.

In the meantime, go ahead and list your 5 favorite things about Ishii if it helps you pass the time.

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5. Second Rope Brainbuster
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