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Old 12-18-2012, 04:17 AM   #2301 (permalink)
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shield vs ryback/bryan/kane - ****. keep in mind i havent watched any wwe programming chronologically wise since cena/brock extreme rules. so here goes.

this match is very good. you all know that. you have six very good workers putting together a very good match under tricky circumstances. the spots in this are great. everything sold tremendously well. the stuff with the chairs (chokeslam, stomp) are all good spots without going over the top. the barricade (plus the clever piling up of stuff on kane). the powerbombs. all very good spots. the match itself is very well put together. it shows how strong the workmanship and solidarity is of the shield, and how well they work together, while the other team feels forced and don't work as well together. the only spot i didn't like was the tyler/ryback multiple tables one. it would've been better if tyler went for the splash and missed, going through the table, instead of the extra risk of the extra tables. looks flashier, but you see him smack his head against the back tables. always sat uneasy with me those spots. but yeah, ****, with 6 good workers (first ryback match i've seen) putting on a very good, enjoyable match.
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:27 AM   #2302 (permalink)
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My point is I wanted to see more of the type of movesets The Shield will have now they are in WWE but I understand the match was more of a brawl, related to the gang mentality the Shield have had since they debuted. I'm starting to think after a second watch the **** rating is a little harsh.
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I would have loved to see Rollins bust out some of his wicked offense too, but considering the match and how it was worked he really didn't have any chances or high points to do so. He'll be able to show the world what he has when he works a more traditional bout.

Good review there KIZ.
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:42 AM   #2304 (permalink)
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The Shield vs Ryback, Kane & Daniel Bryan [TLC match] - WWE TLC 2012 - ****1/2

~ In and of itself, this was clearly a good match, but it was the contextual things that made it great. As a debut match for The Shield, it was absolutely perfect. Each guy got plenty of time to shine. They looked like a well-oiled cohesive unit, and picked apart their opponents in unison like a pack of dogs. To the average viewer, they look like a force to be reckoned with. I really have to commend the booking here as well; having this solid cohesive unit go up against the tag champs who DON'T particularly work well together was a smart move. Ryback, Kane and Bryan were kept apart from each other pretty much the whole match, they never got to function as a team, and again this just puts over The Shield as a strong dynamic. Others have said this felt like a PWG match, and I'd totally get on board with that assertion; at the very least, it's up there with Lesnar/Cena as a very 'un-WWE' style match. What separates it from some of the spotfests we see on the independents is that every single spot was carefully planned out and meant something. Thoroughly enjoyed this, and I really hope we see a lot more 6-mans on a regular basis in the WWE now that The Shield have arrived.

Dolph Ziggler vs John Cena - WWE TLC 2012 - ****

~ Enjoyed this a lot more than I thought I would. The interference detracted somewhat for me, but what Ziggler and Cena did was great. Ziggler hung extremely well in his first taste of PPV main event action and I hope this is a sign to management that he belongs there. Spots were well timed, there wasn't too much down-time but this didn't come at the expense of selling. Crowd helped things too, reacting strongly to everything. Loved them being all over Cena but then going apeshit when he lifted the ladder above his head with Ziggler on it. Good stuff all round here.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:42 AM   #2305 (permalink)
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Shield 6 man I thought was really good. Not MOTYC good but well booked and very enjoyable. Made them look great and as legit as they could look and managed to make Ryback look like a top guy as well so that was cool. Tag Champs look like massive GEEKS again but that's nothing new at all. I'd be tempted to buy a PPV ticket just to see the resurrection of guys who get written out of multi man matches like Kane did here. Did he just rise from the rubble when they went to the next video package? Danielson was great. Duh. Yet another year spent waiting for him to have a long run of 10+ minute singles matches on PPV every month to reclaim his WOTY title. I'm just begging for a year long IC/US Title run where he goes through a different midcard guy each month and has a MOTYC with everyone. Pretty sure he'd had have a MOTYC with Brodus if he fed him his lines. Might finally get my PAC/Danielson dream match soon. Ryback would probably be great if they kept him to tags and teamed him with a guy like Rey. REYBACK. They'd be the best because Ryback is fun taking guys out but he's kinda useless at everything else. Ambrose took 2 fucking ugly bumps. Double suplex on the ladder looked like a bitch and the chokeslam through the chair looked even worse because he went through the top and not the flat of the chair. Show looked like he did the same too. Rollins' big bump at the end wasn't worth it for the coverage and significance it got. Looked like he fell short and banged his head bad on the second table. Ryback looks so unsafe in this environment but I guess he wasn't too reckless in the end. Rollins is so miscast in this role. I know it's basically the AOTF role again. Spent 2 odd years in FCW as a babyface and then they debut him as a heel. Fuck was the point in those 2 years being "developed". Looked like an awesome babyface in the match too. Reigns looked better than I imagined. Ambrose was good bar the early moments when he was doing technical stuff and he looked bad. Match flowed really well and Shield looked as legit as they needed to, not just from the result but the context of the match too. I'd like to think they have a future near the top of the card but I'm still not convinced they'll keep them their and keep them looking as legit as they did here for long. ***3/4 sounds about right.
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Shield vs. Ryback & Team Hell No ****1/2-****1/4
John Cena vs. Dolph Ziggler- **** [****1/2 for the ending]
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:01 AM   #2307 (permalink)
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John Cena vs. Dolph Ziggler- **** [****1/2 for the ending]
What? endind was total shit and AJ is the worst
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It was a better ending than what they would have come up with
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Old 12-18-2012, 04:49 PM   #2309 (permalink)
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The Shield vs. Ryback & Team Hell No - TLC Match
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WWE TLC 2012

1. Tables Match: The Rhodes Scholars (Cody Rhodes & Damien Sandow) vs Rey Mysterio & Sin Cara ***
2. US Championship: Antonio Cesaro (c) vs R-Truth *1/4
3. Intercontinental Championship: Kofi Kingston (c) vs Wade Barrett **1/4
4. TLC Match: The Shield (Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins & Roman Reigns) vs Ryback, Team NoHell (Kane & Daniel Bryan) ****
5. Divas Championship: Eve Torres (c) vs Naomi *
6. World Heavyweight Championship - Chairs Match: The Big Show (c) vs Sheamus **3/4
7. The Miz, Alberto Del Rio & Brooklyn Brawler vs 3MB (Drew McIntyre, Jinder Mahal & Heath Slater) 1/2*
8. Money In The Bank - Ladder Match: Dolph Ziggler (c) vs John Cena ***1/2
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