The 2012 MOTYC thread - Page 231 - Wrestling Forum : WWE, TNA, Indy Wrestling, Lucha Underground, Women of Wrestling Forums

LinkBack Thread Tools
post #2301 of 2788 (permalink) Old 12-18-2012, 05:17 AM
Kiz's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: ken straya
Posts: 21,475
Points: 2,470
Re: The 2012 MOTYC thread

shield vs ryback/bryan/kane - ****. keep in mind i havent watched any wwe programming chronologically wise since cena/brock extreme rules. so here goes.

this match is very good. you all know that. you have six very good workers putting together a very good match under tricky circumstances. the spots in this are great. everything sold tremendously well. the stuff with the chairs (chokeslam, stomp) are all good spots without going over the top. the barricade (plus the clever piling up of stuff on kane). the powerbombs. all very good spots. the match itself is very well put together. it shows how strong the workmanship and solidarity is of the shield, and how well they work together, while the other team feels forced and don't work as well together. the only spot i didn't like was the tyler/ryback multiple tables one. it would've been better if tyler went for the splash and missed, going through the table, instead of the extra risk of the extra tables. looks flashier, but you see him smack his head against the back tables. always sat uneasy with me those spots. but yeah, ****, with 6 good workers (first ryback match i've seen) putting on a very good, enjoyable match.

Kiz is offline  
Sponsored Links
post #2302 of 2788 (permalink) Old 12-18-2012, 05:27 AM
Wheelman for James Ellsworth
MarkL316's Avatar
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 565
Points: 196
Re: The 2012 MOTYC thread

My point is I wanted to see more of the type of movesets The Shield will have now they are in WWE but I understand the match was more of a brawl, related to the gang mentality the Shield have had since they debuted. I'm starting to think after a second watch the **** rating is a little harsh.

Currently Marking For:

WWE: Kevin Owens, AJ Styles, Sami Zayn, Nakamura, Cesaro, Seth Rollins, Finn Balor, Samoa Joe, Austin Aries

Indy/NJPW/Lucha/: Kota Ibushi, Will Ospreay, Prince Puma/Ricochet, Pentagon Jr, Mil Muertes, Roderick Strong, Dragon Kid, Kamaitachi, Okada, Kushida, Tommy End
MarkL316 is offline  
post #2303 of 2788 (permalink) Old 12-18-2012, 05:31 AM
Die Neon Czarina
Obfuscation's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Life in the vivid dream.
Posts: 40,193
Points: 22,088
Re: The 2012 MOTYC thread

I would have loved to see Rollins bust out some of his wicked offense too, but considering the match and how it was worked he really didn't have any chances or high points to do so. He'll be able to show the world what he has when he works a more traditional bout.

Good review there KIZ.

You suck the blood of the afflicted.
Those lacking imagination take refuge in reality.
Obfuscation is offline  
post #2304 of 2788 (permalink) Old 12-18-2012, 05:42 AM
Wheelman for James Ellsworth
Groovemachine's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bristol, England
Posts: 826
Points: 583
Re: The 2012 MOTYC thread

The Shield vs Ryback, Kane & Daniel Bryan [TLC match] - WWE TLC 2012 - ****1/2

~ In and of itself, this was clearly a good match, but it was the contextual things that made it great. As a debut match for The Shield, it was absolutely perfect. Each guy got plenty of time to shine. They looked like a well-oiled cohesive unit, and picked apart their opponents in unison like a pack of dogs. To the average viewer, they look like a force to be reckoned with. I really have to commend the booking here as well; having this solid cohesive unit go up against the tag champs who DON'T particularly work well together was a smart move. Ryback, Kane and Bryan were kept apart from each other pretty much the whole match, they never got to function as a team, and again this just puts over The Shield as a strong dynamic. Others have said this felt like a PWG match, and I'd totally get on board with that assertion; at the very least, it's up there with Lesnar/Cena as a very 'un-WWE' style match. What separates it from some of the spotfests we see on the independents is that every single spot was carefully planned out and meant something. Thoroughly enjoyed this, and I really hope we see a lot more 6-mans on a regular basis in the WWE now that The Shield have arrived.

Dolph Ziggler vs John Cena - WWE TLC 2012 - ****

~ Enjoyed this a lot more than I thought I would. The interference detracted somewhat for me, but what Ziggler and Cena did was great. Ziggler hung extremely well in his first taste of PPV main event action and I hope this is a sign to management that he belongs there. Spots were well timed, there wasn't too much down-time but this didn't come at the expense of selling. Crowd helped things too, reacting strongly to everything. Loved them being all over Cena but then going apeshit when he lifted the ladder above his head with Ziggler on it. Good stuff all round here.
Groovemachine is offline  
post #2305 of 2788 (permalink) Old 12-18-2012, 07:42 AM
seabs's Avatar
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ----->
Posts: 31,675
Points: 12,433
Re: The 2012 MOTYC thread

Shield 6 man I thought was really good. Not MOTYC good but well booked and very enjoyable. Made them look great and as legit as they could look and managed to make Ryback look like a top guy as well so that was cool. Tag Champs look like massive GEEKS again but that's nothing new at all. I'd be tempted to buy a PPV ticket just to see the resurrection of guys who get written out of multi man matches like Kane did here. Did he just rise from the rubble when they went to the next video package? Danielson was great. Duh. Yet another year spent waiting for him to have a long run of 10+ minute singles matches on PPV every month to reclaim his WOTY title. I'm just begging for a year long IC/US Title run where he goes through a different midcard guy each month and has a MOTYC with everyone. Pretty sure he'd had have a MOTYC with Brodus if he fed him his lines. Might finally get my PAC/Danielson dream match soon. Ryback would probably be great if they kept him to tags and teamed him with a guy like Rey. REYBACK. They'd be the best because Ryback is fun taking guys out but he's kinda useless at everything else. Ambrose took 2 fucking ugly bumps. Double suplex on the ladder looked like a bitch and the chokeslam through the chair looked even worse because he went through the top and not the flat of the chair. Show looked like he did the same too. Rollins' big bump at the end wasn't worth it for the coverage and significance it got. Looked like he fell short and banged his head bad on the second table. Ryback looks so unsafe in this environment but I guess he wasn't too reckless in the end. Rollins is so miscast in this role. I know it's basically the AOTF role again. Spent 2 odd years in FCW as a babyface and then they debut him as a heel. Fuck was the point in those 2 years being "developed". Looked like an awesome babyface in the match too. Reigns looked better than I imagined. Ambrose was good bar the early moments when he was doing technical stuff and he looked bad. Match flowed really well and Shield looked as legit as they needed to, not just from the result but the context of the match too. I'd like to think they have a future near the top of the card but I'm still not convinced they'll keep them their and keep them looking as legit as they did here for long. ***3/4 sounds about right.
C+P job on my thoughts on the match from another place. Probably goes off on all sorts of tangents.
seabs is offline  
post #2306 of 2788 (permalink) Old 12-18-2012, 10:51 AM
Wheelman for James Ellsworth
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 799
Points: 121
Re: The 2012 MOTYC thread

Shield vs. Ryback & Team Hell No ****1/2-****1/4
John Cena vs. Dolph Ziggler- **** [****1/2 for the ending]
djmathers1207 is offline  
post #2307 of 2788 (permalink) Old 12-18-2012, 11:01 AM
Regularly Beating Up James Ellsworth
EmbassyForever's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,193
Points: 318
Re: The 2012 MOTYC thread

Originally Posted by djmathers1207 View Post
John Cena vs. Dolph Ziggler- **** [****1/2 for the ending]
What? endind was total shit and AJ is the worst
EmbassyForever is offline  
post #2308 of 2788 (permalink) Old 12-18-2012, 01:07 PM
Wheelman for James Ellsworth
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 799
Points: 121
Re: The 2012 MOTYC thread

It was a better ending than what they would have come up with
djmathers1207 is offline  
post #2309 of 2788 (permalink) Old 12-18-2012, 05:49 PM
Learning to break kayfabe
rafz's Avatar
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 129
Points: 0
Re: The 2012 MOTYC thread

The Shield vs. Ryback & Team Hell No - TLC Match

My 2013 MOTYs so far:

1. Katsuyori Shibata vs. Tomohiro Ishii - NJPW G1 Climax 04/08 *****
2. Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Kazuchika Okada - NJPW Invasion Attack 07/04 *****
3. Brock Lesnar vs. CM Punk - NO DQ Match - WWE Summerslam ****3/4
4. Katsuyori Shibata vs. Hirooki Goto - NJPW Dominion 22/06 ****3/4
5. KENTA vs. Katsuhiko Nakajima - NOAH 05/10 ****1/2
6. John Cena vs. Daniel Bryan - WWE Summerslam ****1/2
7. Suwama vs. Go Shiozaki - 2/3 Falls Match - AJPW 14/07 ****1/2
8. Kota Ibushi vs. Shinsuke Nakamura - NJPW G1 Climax 04/08 ****1/2
9. Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Tomohiro Ishii - NJPW G1 Climax 02/08 ****1/2
10. Kobashi, Akiyama, Mutoh & Sasaki vs. KENTA, Shiozaki, Kanemaru & Maybach - NOAH Final Burning 11/05 ****1/2

Pro-Wrestling Ratings
Movies Ratings
rafz is offline  
post #2310 of 2788 (permalink) Old 12-18-2012, 07:12 PM
Asking JAMES ELLSWORTH for Wrestling Advice
darkclaudio's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Chile
Posts: 302
Points: 408
Re: The 2012 MOTYC thread

WWE TLC 2012

1. Tables Match: The Rhodes Scholars (Cody Rhodes & Damien Sandow) vs Rey Mysterio & Sin Cara ***
2. US Championship: Antonio Cesaro (c) vs R-Truth *1/4
3. Intercontinental Championship: Kofi Kingston (c) vs Wade Barrett **1/4
4. TLC Match: The Shield (Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins & Roman Reigns) vs Ryback, Team NoHell (Kane & Daniel Bryan) ****
5. Divas Championship: Eve Torres (c) vs Naomi *
6. World Heavyweight Championship - Chairs Match: The Big Show (c) vs Sheamus **3/4
7. The Miz, Alberto Del Rio & Brooklyn Brawler vs 3MB (Drew McIntyre, Jinder Mahal & Heath Slater) 1/2*
8. Money In The Bank - Ladder Match: Dolph Ziggler (c) vs John Cena ***1/2
darkclaudio is offline  

User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome