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Old 12-12-2012, 04:54 PM   #2191 (permalink)
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The match established Elgin as a top guy in ROH kayfabe speaking. I guess if the commentators put someone over enough then some people are gonna buy into it right? Or at least if DAVE does then they will. That was by miles his best showing I've ever seen from him. Still haven't seen anything from him that proves he's as good a worker as some people think though. I think for fans of the current ROH style they'll like anyone in that role who can pull their moves off.

Allmark tapes and uploads all them matches on youtube himself. Or at least his mate does. He's the head trainer at All-Star Wrestling UK with Mason (or something along those lines) so I guess he's pretty settled and happy in that role. He turns up on British Indy DVDs too on the undercard. I'd strongly consider for him for best worker of 2012. Need to catch up though. I'm behind on his youtube page all the way back to June now. Fucking assignments. It's funny how every match he uploads has "this was my 3rd/4th/etc match of the day" under the description. The All Star crew are pretty great (Allmark/Mason/Rampage/Dynamite). Sucks that more Mason doesn't turn unless it's with Allmark. There's a Mason/Zebra Kid match that's on youtube that's great. The whole All Star Legends show on Dean's page is awesome actually and there's another Finlay match btw. British wrestling scene has a ton of unearthed great workers right now that get no appreciation while Elgin and Davey get BITW thrown at them like it's nothing.

I remember WOOLCOCK spending the 2nd half of 2011 saying he'd watch that Mason/Allmark series. No faith man. That series last summer was so fun. Great wrestling and great angles. Them 2 rule.

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Moops did you watch that ^. Can't remember if you were praising the Galllows/Davis matches from last year with WOOLCOCK but I can't see you not liking that. Gallows beats a skinny kid up all over a gym and Dreamer ends up being really good too. It's on their Youtube show for that date.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:12 PM   #2192 (permalink)
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Watched a Legends show with Allmark v Zebra Kid, I think. I remember some tags on the show, but it was kinda my first time watching the guys so I recognised almost no one. Same show with Finlay/Danny Boy Collins, both were real good shit as well. I'm going to need to see the rest of Fit's run. Liked his match with Roddy Strong.

I've been watching some Rampage/Dynamite/Mason/other British dudes I've never seen before this month, etc. Did you see Rampage v Jack Gallagher? Gallagher was going in the massive underdog because Rampage is a giant machine or something and Gallagher was expecting someone else. The announcer was selling he shit out of it. Did you watch Dave Mastiff v Stixx and/or Mastiff v Sami Callihan? I'm liking Mastiff quite a bit.

I just finished watching Gallows/Dreamer like twenty minutes ago, actually. Gallows is a monster. Gallows' feud with Davis was rekindled this year so I gotta watch that + what they did last year. I didn't catch nothing last year. I watched some Gallows (and Masters) in Ring Ka King and it was OK.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:26 PM   #2193 (permalink)
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It was Mason vs Zebra Kid on the Legends Show with Finlay/Collins. Allmark had a great little match with Johnny Storm on that show.

Haven't watched anything in months so I'm way behind on stuff that's come up recently so I haven't seen it.

Mastiff is fucking awesome. I've been trying to get him over for a few years now since he had a great singles match with Go Shiozaki. Might have been Go's best singles match off the top of my head. Mastiff ruled in it. The Stixx match is ok. Sami match rules. Almost everything I want from my wrestling. The whole show it's off is great actually. Awesome Finlay match on there too with Martin Kirby. There's a great Mastiff/Travis match this year from PCW. Imma upload some of this British stuff I have on DVD before the end of the year for people. I'm surprised NOAH never brought him over as he's had great matches with nearly all their top heavyweights - Shiozaki, Sugiura, Morishima. Warmed my heart when that Mastiff/Sami match got posted on WKO and everyone started jumping on the Mastiff bandwagon off the back of it.
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If you upload that Finlay/Kirby match sometime that'd be awfully nice of you.

I still need watch Mastff v whatever his name is that's on DM. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpo...t#.UMkVToNhCWb
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I'm just going to ask, how the heck do you guys keep up with NJPW, PWG, CMLL and all these other promotion. Damn, reading through these posts makes me feel like I don't even belong here lol.
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Puro and Lucha are all mostly on Youtube or Dailymotion or the media section here. For PWG or other indie stuff the media section is your best bet.
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Elgin/Richards is my MOTY.

By the way looking at some of the ratings people give matches, I think my ratings are a bit too generous :/
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:25 PM   #2198 (permalink)
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I just want to say..........where were all of you people when Richards/Edwards from BITW first came out and I was the only person on the thread talking about how shit it was?!?!?!?! seriously, I was saying all the same stuff about how everything in that match was done for NO FUCKING REASON and I was all alone.

I mean, better late then never people, but anyone who hates Richards vs. elgin has to hate Edwards/Richards from BITW even more for the exact same reasons.
Because it seems to be the cool thing to hate on Richards and Elgin now. When that match first came out, everyone on here (except you) was pissing their pants over it. Now they all hate it. Fucking bullshit if you ask me. Cactus gave it **** 1/2 at first and now he gives it * 3/4 (ratings are off the top of my head, forgive me if they are wrong). That is a pretty drastic drop. I thought the match was exciting as all hell and had me hooked from bell to bell. Sure there was no psychology and the selling was inconsistent but the point of wrestling is to entertain and that match did that for me in spades. (Edit: Oh, you are talking about another match. I was talking about SITS Shit. It pays to read. )
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:59 PM   #2199 (permalink)
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:22 PM   #2200 (permalink)
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Because it seems to be the cool thing to hate on Richards and Elgin now. When that match first came out, everyone on here (except you) was pissing their pants over it. Now they all hate it. Fucking bullshit if you ask me. Cactus gave it **** 1/2 at first and now he gives it * 3/4 (ratings are off the top of my head, forgive me if they are wrong). That is a pretty drastic drop. I thought the match was exciting as all hell and had me hooked from bell to bell. Sure there was no psychology and the selling was inconsistent but the point of wrestling is to entertain and that match did that for me in spades. (Edit: Oh, you are talking about another match. I was talking about SITS Shit. It pays to read. )
lol yeah, sorry, I'm talking about BITW last year.

I actually still like Richards/Elgin, but I have only seen it once. Need to rewatch it soon.

But Edwards/Davey..........hated from the moment I saw it, at a time when I was the only one on the board hating it. Now, a year later, people are seeing how shit it really was. Hell, that match is probably most responsible for hte Davey we have today.

What people HAVENT realized yet is that all the things they hate about Davey are things Eddie Edwards does EVEN MORE and seems to never get criticized for it. Edwards is one of my least favorite wrestlers alive.
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