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Old 12-08-2012, 05:30 PM   #2121 (permalink)
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He's not as good as some make him out to be. Like there are guys on youtube claiming he's the greatest Shin Nihon worker.
Guys on youtube certainly are not right. But also Ishii not as good as here many say. One good match with Hirooki, and rest pretty average. Sorry guys, foolish to put him in the top 20, even CM Punk deserves it more.
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:59 PM   #2122 (permalink)
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Guys on youtube certainly are not right. But also Ishii not as good as here many say. One good match with Hirooki, and rest pretty average. Sorry guys, foolish to put him in the top 20, even CM Punk deserves it more.
Are we going back to the "CM Punk is botch machine and his horrible." Cause that's going nowhere. Punk isn't my favorite wrestler but that probably has a slight bit to do with I haven't seen much of his independent stuff. I think that's why a lot of guys like him SO much. I'm not saying everyone here loves him but they usually have a reason for disliking someone that is A)Factual B)Something to do with their favoritism towards some point of the art of wrestling.

95% of the time looking for great opinion on wrestling on youtube is a horrible decision. Don't do it. I use to do it when I was 15. I've moved on.
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:13 PM   #2123 (permalink)
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95% of the time looking for great opinion on wrestling on youtube is a horrible decision. Don't do it. I use to do it when I was 15. I've moved on.
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Old 12-08-2012, 07:40 PM   #2124 (permalink)
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I would say Ishii is top 20 and Punk is even better. Goto is nowhere close.

Every 6-10 man tag I have seen with Ishii in it this year he has been the best guy in it nearly every time.
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I saw Ishii in a tag recently and he was solid but kind of annoying. Can someone give me five-ten Ishii matches from 2012 to watch where he looks really good?
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:07 PM   #2126 (permalink)
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I saw Ishii in a tag recently and he was solid but kind of annoying. Can someone give me five-ten Ishii matches from 2012 to watch where he looks really good?
I'm still in the process of watching more from him, so I haven;t seen nearly enough, but here are some of my favorites:

Nakamura, Ishii, Okada vs. Naito, tanahashi, Goto
Ishii vs. Goto
Ishii, Yano, Iizuka vs. Stong Man, Nagata, Nakanishi
Ishii/Nakamura vs. Laughter7
Ishii, Nakamura, Okada, yujiro vs. Tanahashi, Anderson, goto, tonga
Ishii, Nakamura, tanaka vs. Tanahashi, Goto, Akebono

Seabs, have you seen that last one, with Akebono? Ake missing an elbow only for Ishii to follow up and yell 'brainbuster' on a man he clearly won't lift is awesome.

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Old 12-08-2012, 11:49 PM   #2127 (permalink)
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May 20th. New Japan have it on their youtube page if it's nowhere else.

Does Russian Hooligan only turn up in here to voice his terrible opinions? Seems that way.

Goto's not very good. Nowhere near the level of the other New Japan guys that he's pushed harder than. Has he ever had a great match with anyone other than Nakamura or Tanahashi. Ishii match this year obv. but Ishii made that match by himself.
vs Okada? vs Tanaka?
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I saw Ishii in a tag recently and he was solid but kind of annoying. Can someone give me five-ten Ishii matches from 2012 to watch where he looks really good?
5/20 vs Goto
7/19 w/ Nakamura & Tanaka vs Tanahashi, Goto & Akebono
5/27 w/ Nakamura, Okada & YOSHI-HASHI vs Tanahashi, Goto, Naito & Tonga
12/2 w/ Nakamura vs Sakuraba & Shibata

Isn't a load of "great Ishii matches" per se but he always delivers a great performance in everything he's in. The Goto match is definitely great though. The Nagata match from 11/12 last year was an awesome 10 minute example of why Ishii is so great.

Hopefully the Ishii/Nakamura tags from the tag league surface soon.

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I'm still in the process of watching more from him, so I haven;t seen nearly enough, but here are some of my favorites:

Nakamura, Ishii, Okada vs. Naito, tanahashi, Goto
Ishii vs. Goto
Ishii, Yano, Iizuka vs. Stong Man, Nagata, Nakanishi
Ishii/Nakamura vs. Laughter7
Ishii, Nakamura, Okada, yujiro vs. Tanahashi, Anderson, goto, tonga
Ishii, Nakamura, tanaka vs. Tanahashi, Goto, Akebono

Seabs, have you seen that last one, with Akebono? Ake missing an elbow only for Ishii to follow up and yell 'brainbuster' on a man he clearly won't lift is awesome.
I brought the show just for the Ishii/Akebono interactions and it was well worth it. That spot is so awesome. While you're going through this stuff you should watch the MiSu 8 man from the same show as the Ishii/Akekbono 6 man. So much fun and it has TAKA/Taichi being the greatest goofballs going.
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vs Okada? vs Tanaka?
Okada match was average. He's had a crazy amount of matches with Tanaka but I can't remember any of them being great.
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