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Originally Posted by Seabs

Kingston I don't get to see enough of because I always put off downloading CHIKARA shows for his matches that get pimped. Fox is shit. Callihan is even on the list. Fuck Quack. Mack has never really done anything bar the Strong and Steen matches. Cabana isn't top 50 worker calibre but he's good at what he does.

How is AR Fox shit?

[Seabs]

All he does is kill himself doing flips.

[Jack Evans 187]

I wouldn't say AR Fox is shit but I can understand why someone would say that. From what I've seen he's just a big spot monkey. Doesn't seem to have much charisma either. Kinda bland character wise but a fine guy to see flip around the ring. A guy I'd compare him to is Rich Swann, although Swann radiates personality. Entertaining dude to watch.

[Bubz]

Originally Posted by Yeah1993

Danielson/McGuinness 6YA is the only ROH crowd I've ever enjoyed

Best ROH match ever. It's science .

Also, I watch nowhere near enough Indy shit to even consider making a list of workers or whatever. All I've watched this year has been Puro, ROH (PPV's) and WWE tbh, just haven't been feeling like getting into anything recently.

And from what I have seen, AR Fox seems like I'd hate him if I watched any more of him. Does no one else think he looks really fucking awkward setting up for moves? And that's all he does too so it makes it worse.

[Seabs]

Swann's been awesome since he's been more or less full time in Japan. Before he went over there he was pretty bad but now he's fine tuned everything up and his charisma shines through a lot more. Swann's super. I need to see more Rich Swann matches.

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Originally Posted by Seabs

Kingston I don't get to see enough of because I always put off downloading CHIKARA shows for his matches that get pimped. Fox is shit. Callihan is even on the list. Fuck Quack. Mack has never really done anything bar the Strong and Steen matches. Cabana isn't top 50 worker calibre but he's good at what he does.

Lmao, no reason necessary just fuck Quack. I'd like to hear the argument behind it like maybe you just don't like his style or he hasn't worked enough places this year to actually consider him a top worker. The reasons are definitely out there. Hopefully its more then "I didn't really ever like him and then i watched the Hero shoot blurb blurb blurb" Quack has been good this year btw. I'll probably get burned at the stake for this, but wrestling wise he has been MUCH better than Steen this year.

[Seabs]

Steen hasn't really done a whole lot this year tbf. I don't like Quack. He's good technically but he's also really boring. That and fuck Quack. I don't watch CHIKARA so I'm not really giving those guys a fair shout but I have little desire to see a Quack singles match unless it's against a guy I like.

What's MOTYC Level from CHIKARA this year, save me going through all the show ratings. I like to keep telling myself I'll watch the Kingston stuff, the Ebbesan matches from KOT and ACH/Touchdown. Watched Generico/SDR though.

[Bubz]

Seabs is Generico/SDR good?

[JoeRulz]

AR Fox is good. He's not my favorite wrestler, and he's not great, but the guy is busting his ass out there. His mindset is to go out there and win a match by hitting as many big moves as possible. Now, I know that sounds bad, but in reality it looks pretty decent actually, and not over the top. Nothing different from a powerhouse tossing his opponent around, or a striker throwing vicious kicks all the time. Some dudes pull legs, some throw chops, some throw strikes, and AR Fox flys, it's simple as that. He gets crowds to cheer him, and that's always positive. He even improved his game in slower, methodical parts this year. He can wrestle even limbwork matches. And his hardcore stuff has been top notch this year. So yeah, Fox is a new all-round wrestler to watch, IMO. But, I'd really like him to slow down sometimes, and to adjust or modificate his offense, for his sake, because his high-impact moves can look devastating even to his own body sometimes.

Originally Posted by septurum

No love for Eddie Kingston, AR Fox, Sami Callihan, Mike Quackenbush or Willie Mack? Isn't Cabana still around as well? There are still some quality guys out there.

Well, instead of taking his list as the official one, why don't you simply make one of your own?

[septurum]

Originally Posted by JoeRulz

Well, instead of taking his list as the official one, why don't you simply make one of your own?

Just interested in the reasoning behind some of his omissions. Him saying fuck Quack hurts me.