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Yeah the ladders being shit wasn't good, but hey, at least it made the slow climbing thing seem justified .
Haha true. Funny how the silver looking ladder at the end was the most sturdy looking one. Anyway yeah it must be tough on the wrestlers having to deal with ladders like that, it's the same with tables too. Sometimes they'll break too easily or not at all(Japanese table), it kinda throws me outta the match but I know the guys in the ring are trying to make it work.


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The ladders were really that bad? Was it because the ladders took damage throughout the match or were they just cheapshit ladders
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I was literally going to mention Japanese table after seeing you brought up tables

It's those ladder matches on the indies that really scare me. You never know what they'll do during and the ladders aren't always the most sturdy/safest. (yeah, but what ladders are really "safe" to use in a match though?) Steen Wolf ladder & various ones in CZW come to mind as very dangerous. I need to see how the ladder match from tonight goes after a rewatch. I'm far too surprised by Jeff killing himself to even look at it from a "fan rating" standpoint.

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The ladders were really that bad? Was it because the ladders took damage throughout the match or were they just cheapshit ladders
The black ladder took bumps and they bent to the point where when they were set up they kinda tilted. So if you were climbing your weight would noticeable shift to the way it tilted.

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I was literally going to mention Japanese table after seeing you brought up tables

It's those ladder matches on the indies that really scare me. You never know what they'll do during and the ladders aren't always the most sturdy/safest. (yeah, but what ladders are really "safe" to use in a match though?) Steen Wolf ladder & various ones in CZW come to mind as very dangerous. I need to see how the ladder match from tonight goes after a rewatch. I'm far too surprised by Jeff killing himself to even look at it from a "fan rating" standpoint.
Those Japanese tables are extra strong!

But yeah man I don't think there's ever been a sturdy enough ladder besides that one Big Show used in a MITB match before. All ladder match seem to feature the ladder shaking, off balance or at worst bending to the point where you can hardly climb it. It can be scary, I was hoping the two referrers standing at ringside would notice the wobbling ladder and run in to help keep it steady. It might have been 'lame' but it would have been a little safer. Glad nobody took a spill they weren't meaning to take though, could have been...deadly.

Imagine how scary it is to climb something that's wobbling underneath you, terrifying. I really hope the ladders at TLC and Final Battle are in good shape.


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That's why you see refs sometime post by ladders. The cameras usually do a good job at not showing them hold onto them to maintain balance for the wrestlers to jump off. Someone might claim that suspends belief, but I don't mind. Have you ever tried to jump off a ladder? Even on steady ground that feat isn't exactly easy to do when the ladder flies out from under you.

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That's why you see refs sometime post by ladders. The cameras usually do a good job at not showing them hold onto them to maintain balance for the wrestlers to jump off. Someone might claim that suspends belief, but I don't mind. Have you ever tried to jump off a ladder? Even on steady ground that feat isn't exactly easy to do when the ladder flies out from under you.
Yeah I think I'd rather them help the guys out a little rather than just standing there looking at the guys kinda struggling to make it up the ladder.

Never tried jumping from a ladder but yeah the fact that it kinda slides away sometimes when guys get pushed or jump is scary. I think it slid away from Hardy on Impact when Aries pushed him off. Imagine landing on your head from that height


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It's logical. I wouldn't say it is a plot hole in the business either. Wrestlers wanting a ref to hold the ladders seems legit. Can't see a scenario where it wouldn't be good, unless you're a wild character like Sabu or something. Or unless you're nuts like Jeff Hardy and simply say "fuck it" and jump.

Some wild times as an impressionable youth I have with a ladder. I channeled Jeff I suppose.

The fall on Impact was even pretty crazy. Completely went out from under him. That should have been a sign for tonight.

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It's logical. I wouldn't say it is a plot hole in the business either. Wrestlers wanting a ref to hold the ladders seems legit. Can't see a scenario where it wouldn't be good, unless you're a wild character like Sabu or something. Or unless you're nuts like Jeff Hardy and simply say "fuck it" and jump.

Some wild times as an impressionable youth I have with a ladder. I channeled Jeff I suppose.

The fall on Impact was even pretty crazy. Completely went out from under him. That should have been a sign for tonight.
It is logical especially when it comes to the safety of the guy climbing.

You channeling Hardy huh? Haha. About your last sentence, true. I knew Hardy would go all out in the match, glad he doesn't do that all the time though because some of those spots were just...ridiculous(I've seen worst but still). Both guys will be sore tomorrow.


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AJ Styles vs. Bobby Roode vs. James Storm (11/11/2012)- ***3/4
Jeff Hardy vs. Austin Aries (11/11/2012)- ****1/4

Another strong outing from TNA yet again, though I will admit that I'm" getting burnt out on Ladder Matches it seems like every promotion is using it this year.



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Agree with you about the 3-Way but I thought Aries vs Hardy was ***1/2. Loved the CHOAS feeling during the match and the broken ladders actaully helped, but some of Hardy's strange no-selling moments were probaly the reason I didn't gave it higher rating..

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