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Old 09-17-2012, 07:54 AM   #1681 (permalink)
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Damian Steele & Giovanni vs Pee Wee & Johnny Jack Spade - NSPW Kickoff 2012
THIS. WAS. AWESOME. Might be my favourite Indy match this year outside of PWG. I kinda jokingly said to myself during this Steele and Giovanni were the best tag team on the Indies based on this and it's not as far from the truth as it sounds. They're fucking killers. Super stiff strikes that make you genuinely sorry for the guy on the receiving end. Awesome control segment workers which is such a rarity these days anywhere, nevermind on a little show in Canada. Babyfaces are decent but they have some fun aerial spots that get over and one of them takes a great beating. This is the Steele/Giovanni show though and I need to track down as much of these two as I can. KO by Lariat is my favourite finish ever too. THIS is how you fucking hit a lariat my son.

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Old 09-17-2012, 11:05 AM   #1682 (permalink)
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Cena doing a German suplex from the top rope makes perfect sense. By then it was already well established that Cena and Punk couldn't put each other away with their usual moves, so they were using moves that they were not used too doing.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:32 AM   #1683 (permalink)
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The thing is, it looked terrible and the move was only used as a way to have both guys shoulder's down. Why wouldn't Cena go for an AA from the ropes like he's used as a big match finish before? Just didn't make sense to me that he'd go for that instead of going for something from that position that he's used quite a few times before to win matches. I don't think they planned that finish well enough and they fluffed the move too which only took more away from it.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:44 AM   #1684 (permalink)
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it didn't look great but i also don't want them to kill themselves doing the move. i thought the finish was A+.
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There's much better ways to set up a double pin than what they did. AA and Cena falls over Punk with his shoulders down on the mat. Anything other than a spot which is deliberately done to set up a double pin.
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Old 09-17-2012, 03:21 PM   #1686 (permalink)
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Yeah Seabs Punk's reaction was great reminded me of how Bryan looked after finding out that he won by DQ a little while back. Minus the actual 'yessing'

Think from now on Punk's gonna have a reign similar to JBL's and Bobby Roode's where he finds ways to win no matter what but he doesn't care because he's still the champion. Also like that fans reaction in this gif he's like "ohhh"

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Why wouldn't Cena go for an AA from the ropes like he's used as a big match finish before?
because he was behind punk, and really you're looking way into this! you could ask "why so and so would do this" just about every spot in nearly every match. where i come from, a german suplex from the top rope is a pretty powerful maneuver. dont see why he has to go with the AA, just because.

i mean why would someone go for a rock bottom, when you can go for a go to sleep? it's just as illogical, only backed by the theme of them trying out new maneuvers.


while we're on topic, I think their Summerslam match from last year is still their best. But this one was pretty cool, really liked CM Punk's acting. Didn't think they did a good job no-selling though.

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top rope german is definitely a credible finish, but after all of those kick outs and shit it felt really deflating. It was like a little downtime in the finisher stretch, and I looked away for a second.......match is over. It was confusing as hell and on a replay it didn't even look good.
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I greatly preferred Ziggler/Orton to Punk/Cena. The break may come down to preferring build over spots - they spent that whole match making the Landslide DDT look dangerous, hit it once and it was huge. Meanwhile Punk and Cena doing their finishers over and over, and sometimes just hulking up to hit one yet again, got ridiculous to me. I'll take Ziggler desperately chasing Orton and leaping for the Sleeper Hold over anything from the main event.

Still liked Punk/Cena, but by the point at which Cena had taken two straight finishers and charged across the ring to herc Punk into a Fireman's Carry, it had jumped the shark for me. I agree with Seabs that the first half of that match was pure class, though, very akin to their MITB and Summerslam matches.
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because he was behind punk, and really you're looking way into this! you could ask "why so and so would do this" just about every spot in nearly every match. where i come from, a german suplex from the top rope is a pretty powerful maneuver. dont see why he has to go with the AA, just because.

i mean why would someone go for a rock bottom, when you can go for a go to sleep? it's just as illogical, only backed by the theme of them trying out new maneuvers.


while we're on topic, I think their Summerslam match from last year is still their best. But this one was pretty cool, really liked CM Punk's acting. Didn't think they did a good job no-selling though.
Because Cena still had that big move to pull out of the bag, Punk had already hit 2 GTS's and Cena kicked out of both, so he had nothing else of his own left to dish out, hence him going for a moonsault and the Rock Bottom, moves he's never used before.

Dunno, just thought it was only used as a way to have both guys shoulder's down at the end. I mean, why did they think Cena could even pull that move off. A middle rope bridging german suplex pin? Could Cena even do a normal german suplex bridge? It just looked awful imo, and they didn't need to risk the quality of the finish just to have both guys get pinned. Like seabs said, probably loads of other things they could have done without risking the quality and making the crowd not care. Just didn't like it personally. Like I said though, I absolutely loved most of the match, and they looked to be heading to their best match yet for the first two thirds of it.

I agree on the SS match being the best. Adored that match (MITB too, but the SS match took the in-ring work up a notch, and had the best finishing stretch last year imo).
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