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post #1461 of 2789 (permalink) Old 08-01-2012, 11:44 AM
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Can we just have a TV MOTY and a live event MOTY? Because it's difficult to really, fairly and accurately judge a TV match compared to a PPV counterpart if you have commercials and all the added crap television tends to provide. So I'd say Bryan/Sheamus would be up there for TV Match of the Year, but not Live Event Match of the Year or overall MOTY. Does that make sense?
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I agree with both Danielson vs Sheamus and Cena vs Show. Two really good tv matches.
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I really liked the F4W from SD and the tag matches from Raw (Vitamin C vs Miz & DZ)

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Re: The 2012 MOTYC thread

We don't need a seperate thread when the 2 threads are about the exact same fucking thing. MOTYs are MOTYs because there some of the best matches of the year. This thread isn't all that active as it is and theres definitely no need to split it up.
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Yeah this thread isn't anywhere near as active as it used to be iirc. Really don't need another thread. TV matches and PPV matches are just as eligible as each other for MOTYC's.

As far as TV matches go, there haven't been any that I would call legit MOTYC's (over ****), but the first Punk/Bryan and the first Punk/Henry are the best imo. Both ****.
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Keep in mind I don't watch RAW and Smackdown every week, but the best TV match I've seen this year was Richards/Edwards IV. I'm even surprised to say that after their debacle from Final Battle, but this match actually had structure and psychology. Davey's armwork was great, Edwards sold it nicely, a great finishing stretch where the spots weren't overdone, and while the ending wasn't the greatest it made sense in the Davey/Steen feud and was fine for a tv match. I'd go ***3/4 for it. Right there with Davey/Strong as the best match on ROH Sinclair TV.

Haven't seen anything so far that'll top Bryan/Sheamus from Extreme Rules as my MOTY yet. Lot of stuff I need to see though.

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Re: The 2012 MOTYC thread

I wasn't particularly calling for separate threads, but maybe just a recognition that TV matches are structured somewhat differently and, in my mind, aren't completely comparable to a PPV match. TV matches have slightly different structures in place, having to work around commercial breaks and sometimes interjecting other distractions to further the stories, which you don't see as much at a live event or a house show.

I was probably just going to create my own little subsystem, where regular, non-TV matches were rated out of five stars, and the TV matches being rated out of four (with no quarter increments given; only halves, like movies). Using that scale, I'd give Sheamus/Bryan 3/4 and something like the first Punk/Bryan match 3.5. Well, OK, that does sound stupid, I will admit. It's just difficult for me to rate the matches the same since there are so many interruptions and distractions that subtract from otherwise enjoyable wrestling matches. Too often do I think, "Had that commercial not been there, this match would have been so much better..."

The current system works well enough, but I can't foresee a TV match ever being a certifiable MOTY, as TV matches (to me) need a lot more working in their favor to keep up with their PPV counterparts.

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Bobby Roode & Zema Ion vs Austin Aires and Kenny King
Holy shit, what a way to start off Impact, awesome non stop action, Roode playing the heel perfect again, but damn I hate Ion, so made the ending a little better, no where near a full on MOTYC, but a great TV MOTYC - ***3/4

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Akira Tozawa, Shinsuke Nakamura, Dolph Ziggler, AJ Styles, Chris Jericho, Daniel Bryan, Kassius Ohno, YAMATO, El Generico.
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wXw 16 Carat Gold 2012 Day 1
Zack Sabre Jr vs Jon Ryan
****

Big Van Walter & Robert Dreissker vs Daisuke Sekimoto & Freddy Stahl
****

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Bobby Roode & Zema Ion vs Austin Aires and Kenny King
Holy shit, what a way to start off Impact, awesome non stop action, Roode playing the heel perfect again, but damn I hate Ion, so made the ending a little better, no where near a full on MOTYC, but a great TV MOTYC - ***3/4

King looked like a star here. Roode worked awesome as always. Aries' dive was a really dangerous spot because Aries almost fell before he jumped.. But yeah really good match.

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