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Unlike HDNet, the weekly broadcasts will air at different times and for those of us abroad, we'll be seeing it at all different times online too, so I guess we can discuss events/happenings here.

Here's the preview for this week.



SBG have brought some great technical leaps since HDNet. The Haas/Benjamin segment with them holding the belts looks real clear, for instance.

Can't wait.
 
#3,157 ·
Only matches I didn't like so far were Moose vs Mark Briscoe and the womans match
 
#3,160 ·
It's best Lethal won, got him over huge. Patron didn't the need the win as he's a superstar regardless.


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#3,162 ·
reDRagon vs. Young Bucks was MOTN
 
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#3,168 ·
That main event was so frustrating. I really liked the first half of it (shattered my low expectations going in), but everything that occurred after Elgin put Jay through the table was so unnecessary. Nigel didn't have to come in, Ciampa didn't have to "save" him, and the actual finish was just ridiculous. It's a shame because the match was flowing very nicely until that.

Styles/ACH was my MOTN at *** 3/4. Bucks/reDRagon and Alberto/Lethal were both really good (*** 1/2) while Sydal/Alexander surprised me in the opener (*** 1/4).

Good show overall as we learned some new things and got some good wrestling, but man that main event booking was piss poor.

How bout Ciampa's entrance though? Pretty badass.
 
#3,198 ·
That main event was so frustrating. I really liked the first half of it (shattered my low expectations going in), but everything that occurred after Elgin put Jay through the table was so unnecessary. Nigel didn't have to come in, Ciampa didn't have to "save" him, and the actual finish was just ridiculous. It's a shame because the match was flowing very nicely until that.

Styles/ACH was my MOTN at *** 3/4. Bucks/reDRagon and Alberto/Lethal were both really good (*** 1/2) while Sydal/Alexander surprised me in the opener (*** 1/4).

Good show overall as we learned some new things and got some good wrestling, but man that main event booking was piss poor.

How bout Ciampa's entrance though? Pretty badass.
I agree that was not needed for the main event but it was needed for the continuing saga between Nigel and Ciampa. It is something I like in my wrestling. Small pieces of a puzzle that belong to a story line that while on the back burner is not forgotten. It all started with Ciampa putting his hand on non wrestlers and facing suspension or being fired if he does it again. It continued in the #1 contender match where Elgin grabbed a chair and Ciampa backed off and put his arms in the air to show he had nothing to do with what was going on. And not it continues with the current events. It probabaly should not have happened in the PPV ME but I like the interaction and look forward to see where this all leads.
 
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#3,169 ·
That main event was one of the worst I've seen in a while... Otherwise it was an awesome show.
 
#3,172 ·
I'm sorry, but I don't see it. Put it like this, if you're in charge of ROH do you honestly think someone like Ciampa would bring in, or even keep, viewers? The way he looks, the quality of his matches, the promos he cuts...do you honestly think any of these things would appeal to someone who's flipping through channels and comes across ROH? From everything I've seen from him since he debuted with ROH, I'm going with no. He's not bad, but he's not this amazing talent that a world champion should be. He's like the indy/ROH version of formerly TNA's Crimson. If he did become world champion, I imagine the same thing happening to him as what happened to Elgin. When I see people say guys like Ciampa and Bennett should be world champion I can't help but think these people have been influenced by WWE's booking of their world title where a bunch of upper midcarders get it as a boost or thank you. The top belt of a promotion should be given to a select few who have something special, and I don't see anything special from Ciampa. All I see is a very solid talent.
 
#3,173 ·
- I guess I'll have to watch Lethal/Alberto for sure and maybe AJ/ACH

- Elgin is gonna be Joe's first meal (fpalm) in ROH, I see
 
#3,174 · (Edited)
ROH 13TH ANNIVERSARY 2015 MARCH 1 REVIEW




***3/4
Great opener. High-flying, fast-paced action. I am a fan of both Matt Sydal and Cedric Alexander, but I was rooting for Sydal. The shooting star at the end was awesome. :mark:


***1/4
Average match. I like Moose. He is pure power and very agile for his tremendous size. I like Mark Briscoe too. He's always doing silly and interesting spots. It was fun.


***1/2
Pretty good match. Back-and-forth and side-to-side action from all teams. It sucks Doc Gallows couldn't make it. The Twist of Fate/Swanton Bomb combination was awesome.


***3/4
I enjoyed this match as well. The storytelling was great and the match played out logically. I am not really a fan of BJ Whitmer (he looks like a penis lol :lmao), but his performance was on point tonight. The top rope X-Factor counter was awesome. Roderick Strong was perfect as always. His technique reminds me of Chris Benoit. I love the backbreaker.


***
This was a fun match. ODB and Maria Kanellis performed some nice spots. Maria ate a superkick and a spear from her husband. That domestic abuse! :lmao Mark Briscoe and Mike Bennett were putting on a show outside the ring. I hope Jay Briscoe starts to use his custom belt again.


****
Incredible match. AJ Styles and ACH put on a wrestling clinic. Fast-paced, risk-taking, hard slams. These guys were flying all around the ring. Top performance from both of them. The Styles Clash is super-effective. :mark:


****1/2
MOTN. It is no surprise that Young Bucks and reDDragon are an amazing combination. This match did not disappoint. Creative spots. Lots of excitement! Both teams ooze enthusiasm and charisma. SUCK IT! :mark: The ending pissed me off only because I was rooting for Young Bucks, but it was still a good ending regardless. This match was absolutely crazy, but it was not better than their 2014 MOTY at War of the Worlds, which I gave 5 stars.


****
Another wrestling clinic put on by two great wrestling technicians. Alberto El Patron showed his presence, but the real star was Jay Lethal. I believe Lethal is the future face of ROH. I see so much promose in him. This match had great storytelling, and of course, fantastic wrestling.


****1/4
Excellent main event. Constant heavy-hitting, heavy-slamming action. Everyone had a chance to shine. Hanson and Michael Elgin used their brute power. Jay Briscoe and Tommaso Ciampa used their speed and agility. Everyone was taking hits from every direction. There were some complications towards the end of the match. Nigel interfering, and then being saved by Ciampa. The KRD (red masks) interfering. Are they imitators of The Kingdom? The referee had a good nap too lol :lmao. I don't mind Briscoe winning by chance because it suits the whole theme of the PPV, which is Las Vegas, luck, and WINNER TAKES ALL.

Overall, awesome/amazing show! Tip for future programs: less matches (6-8) so more time is alotted for each match. I almost forgot, SAMOA JOE IS BACK AND HE'S GONNA EAT YOU! :mark:
 
#3,176 ·
best roh shows from 14-15?

I might just check some out
 
#3,177 · (Edited)
ROH 13th Anniversary Show
Cedric Alexander vs. Matt Sydal - **1/2
Moose vs. Mark Briscoe - 1/2*
The Addiction vs. The Kingdom vs. Bullet Club - **1/4
BJ Whitmer vs. Roderick Strong - *1/2
Maria Kanellis vs. ODB - N/R
AJ Styles vs. ACH - ***1/2
reDRagon vs. The Young Bucks - ****1/4
Jay Lethal vs. Alberto El Patrón - **3/4
Jay Briscoe vs. Tommaso Ciampa vs. Hanson vs. Michael Elgin - *


Good show for ROH 2011-2015 standards. Bucks/reDRagon was phenomenal.
 
#3,178 ·
Thought the finish to the Main Event was sorta lame. It seems like they're gonna have Joe feud with Jay sooner than later, so wouldn't they want to make Jay look strong for that instead of him retaining in such a fluky anti-climatic fashion?

Real talk though - solid ass show. Much better than anything WWE has produced lately by a long shot.
 
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