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post #391 of 7588 (permalink) Old 10-14-2011, 07:56 PM
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So Lagana is gone from ROH and has joined TNA. Who takes his place?
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post #392 of 7588 (permalink) Old 10-15-2011, 12:41 AM
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I just finished watching the newest ROH TV 10.8.2011, well I guess it is not new to some of you who spend the $7.99 to get it a day early. The Briscoes come down for an interview with Cornette who they call "Corny" whcih made me laugh. The Briscoes are the best thing going in ROH right now to me. I really wish they woudl let them jsut go balls to the wall and say whatever they want without a filter. They could cause more riots and trouble then the Dudley's did in ECW. God knows they can wrestle better then Bully Ray and Devon what a joke those two have become.

I have a suggestion for the fans of ROH. Stop with the fucking streamers for every little thing. It gets less significate with every toss, all you stupid smartmarks stop and think for once and ask yourself is this really a worthy moment in history to throw my stupid little streamer that does not make it to the ring most of the time. Seriously Baba Booey ( has better aim then most of you limp dick armed marks. Here is an idea the next time you are watching a match and you see an incrediable move or sequence throw the streamers then during the match. Like the next time you see two guys go back and forth with the RVD/Lynn standoff or you see a huge top rope belly to belly or german suplex. Lets make it special and mean something again.

This lets ask the fans who they think is going to win segment needs to be aborted faster then a promo night dumpster baby. Hey Robbie from Louisville you want it all but you can't have it and nobody gives a shit about who you think is going to win the next match. Boom Rick Rolled! If you don't get it then your loss.

Lets get to the action in the first match Tommaso Ciampa vs Right Leg Andy Ridge. Good fast paced stiff match right from the start. All I hear during this match is how hard Ridge kicks but yet he kicks too much to make it feel effective. He should use one awesome kick as his finisher to get it over that he really has some powerful kicks. I love what Prince Nana brings to the table as a manager and really will help Ciampa get over as a heel. Corino on commentary is awesome and it is to bad he can not do it all the time instead of Kelley. Ciama wins with a huge powerbomb to codebreaker which is an interesting variation of the move that I have not seen before. I think the pairing of Nana and Ciampa is very interesting and is way better then the Butal Bob/Bennett pairing.

Davey Richards defends the ROH Title vs Rodrick Strong w/ Truth Martini. I can't help but think everytime I see Truth it makes me think of this song.

I woke up this morning with a bad hangover and my penis
was missing again. This happens all the time; it's detachable.
This comes in handy a lot of the time; I can leave it home
when it think it's gonna get me in trouble, or I can rent it out
when I don't need it. But now and then I go to a party, get
drunk, and the next morning, I can't, for the life of me,
remember what I did with it. First I looked around my
apartment, and I couldn't find it , so I called up the place
where the party was, they hadn't seen it either. I asked them
to check the medicine cabinet, 'cause for some reason, I
leave it there sometimes, but not this time.
So I told them if it pops up to let me know. I called a few
people who were at the party, but they were no help either.
I was starting to get desperate I really don't like being
without my penis for too long, It makes me feel like less of a
man, and I really hate having to sit down every time
I take a leak.

After a few hours of searching the house, and calling
everyone I could think of, I was starting to get very
depressed, so I went to the Kiev and ate breakfast.
Then as I walked down Second Avenue, toward's St. Mark's
Place, where all those people sell used books and other
junk on the street, I saw my penis lying on a blanket next to
a broken toaster oven-some guy was selling it! I had to buy
it off him. He wanted 22 bucks, but I talked him
down to 17. I took it home, washed it off, and put it back
on. I was happy again: complete. People sometimes tell me
I should get it permanently attached, but I don't know. Even
though sometimes it's a pain in the ass, I like having a
detachable penis.

Sorry I got off topic again back to the match. This is a typical Richards match chops, stiff kicks, and forearms flying everywhere at rapid speed. Richards dive through the middle rops to the outside on Strong was pretty impressive, the speed and force he uses make it seem like he was shot out of a gun but not a love gun of course. Another move that stood out to me was the back body drop Strong gave Richards on the fucking apron. One has to wonder how much longer can Richards go at this pace with these kind of matches. At some point your body is not going to recover as quickly as you think, but that is what makes ROH so good is that the wrestlers actually go all out every match. The once Strong hit the big boot to Richards coming out of the corner was huge and I feel they had the crowd with them and all the reversals and counters were great. The ending of the show was corny as shit with Richards saying welcome to ring of honor after his match. I wonder if that was what he was thinking throughout the whole match who he is going to say his line.

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I hate to say it but I don't think I'm going to be following ROH's new show very much. I watched the first episode, made it through the first match, skipped all the crap and barely bad it through the main event. Episode two rolled around and I watched 30 seconds of the first match and turned it off. I can't say why but I'm just not enjoying the show all that much and I feel like there's better wrestling out there that I can spend my time watching.
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yeah I can't struggle through all the recaps and mediocre promos for wrestling that isn't all that great

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ROH needs to do 3 matches a show and stop showing 4 or 5 web advertisements.
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post #396 of 7588 (permalink) Old 10-16-2011, 08:23 AM
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they have to show ads because sadly not everyone watching is familiar with how to access or learn more about ROH. Have you not seen how many people have posted in here asking about how to watch etc.
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they have to show ads because sadly not everyone watching is familiar with how to access or learn more about ROH. Have you not seen how many people have posted in here asking about how to watch etc.
New fans shouldn't have to learn more about ROH. They TV show should be accessible from the get go.
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post #398 of 7588 (permalink) Old 10-16-2011, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JoseDRiveraTCR7 View Post
New fans shouldn't have to learn more about ROH. They TV show should be accessible from the get go.
Shouldn't have to learn more? So its just expected then that everyone should know who Davey Richards or Eddie Edwards are or what the ROH website is even though most wrestling fans don't know any of the 3 above exist.
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Originally Posted by JoseDRiveraTCR7 View Post
New fans shouldn't have to learn more about ROH. They TV show should be accessible from the get go.
The TV show is free to watch dude
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Found this interesting whilst browsing the ROH World site. Since it mentions SBG i'll post it in here:

In a new, two-part edition of's 'Creative Direction' series, Dave Wood discusses the possibilities of an ROH women's division.

Ring of Honor's landscape has changed, drastically, over the summer months.

Established talents; such as Chris Hero, Claudio Castagnoli, Christopher Daniels, Colt Cabana and Homicide; have either parted company with the promotion or have been rumoured to be doing so, in the near future. The hole that has been left, in heart of the card, has been noticeable. Indeed, perhaps partly due to the depleted roster, 'Death Before Dishonor IX' is reported to have drawn a disappointing buyrate of 972.

The primary change agent has been the Sinclair Broadcast Group buyout.

The takeover has not only instigated roster movement, it has also affected ROH's schedule. A sudden rise in the number of dates booked, going into the closing months of the year, has stemmed from the buyout, with more and bigger shows also being promised for 2012.

The recent severing of ties with long-time sister promotion SHIMMER, has been another eventuality that has it's roots in the SBG deal. New SHIMMER volumes will no longer be distributed through the Ring of Honor website and SHIMMER head honcho Dave Prazak has gradually been eased out of his ROH commentary position, to be replaced by the new partnership of Kevin Kelly and Nigel McGuinness.

Meanwhile, in the related genre of Mixed Martial Arts, following the UFC buyout of rival promotion Strikeforce – a company known for embracing female fights - women athletes have, once again, become a major talking point.

Amidst this climate, in this writer's opinion, there may never have been a better time for ROH to launch it's own female division.

In ROH's past, female wrestling has often been relegated to a special attraction role. One-off exhibition bouts of hit-and-miss length and quality have been the status quo. Female talent, from outside the promotion, has often been brought in and, effectively, fed to regular roster members Sara Del Rey and Daizee Haze.

On the occasions that ROH has promoted competitive female bouts, and has given the girls enough time to express themselves, the crowd has been largely receptive. Amazing Kong vs. Del Rey, from 'Supercard of Honor V', and MsChif vs. Del Rey, from 'Rising Above 2008', are two historical examples of women's wrestling piquing the ROH fanbase's interest. A more recent example of female wrestling done well would be the Joshi matches at the 'Honor Takes Center Stage' weekend, in which Ayumi Kurihara, in particular, wowed those in attendance and those watching live on iPPV.

It would be vital for a prospective Women of Honor division to feature competitive bouts and meaningful storylines, rather than to just exist for the sake of giving Sara Del Rey a belt to wear.

Many fans, who have closely followed both U.S. organisations like SHIMMER and the apparent resurgance of Joshi wrestling in Japan, have noticed a remarkable new generation of talent emerging worldwide and, not least, in North America. This group of rapidly-developing female competitors, in their early-to-mid 20s, has done much to convince this writer that American Joshi could be the next logical evolution of the sport of professional wrestling.

The culture shock that you may feel, whilst reading that statement, would not be unlike the culture shock that audiences in the mid-1990s felt, when faced with an unusual hispanic brand of professional wrestling, that was just beginning to make a muffled noise, in the United States. Audiences, at that time, had an initial repulsion to the concept of what is now fondly remembered as “Extreme Lucha Libre”. This bold innovation, from the genius mind of ECW booker Paul Heyman, was to, eventually, be mimicked by the larger WCW and in turn Vince McMahon's WWE. The growing phenomenon would go on to make a global cashcow of the tiny, masked, silent Rey Mysterio.

The purpose of a new Women of Honor division would be to, not only, challenge the popular perception of female wrestling but, also, to nurture this bright young generation of stars. In doing so, it would create a stronger foundation on which to build the future of, what is currently, a stagnant, unfashionable industry.

No modern day company is better placed to begin such a trend than Ring of Honor - ECW's modern day counterpart.

The current benchmark, in North American women's wrestling, is the aforementioned SHIMMER promotion. For many reasons it could, in truth, be difficult for ROH management to replicate the high standards of SHIMMER, when constructing a prospective Women of Honor Division.

One of the main stumbling blocks, that this theoretical division could face, would be geography.

SHIMMER, itself, has evolved, over the course of it's six-year existance, into a truly international organisation. The Chicago-based federation currently attracts talent from as far and wide as the American West Coast, Texas, Japan, Canada, Mexico, Australia and Europe. SHIMMER's unique business model facilitates this practice. The company tapes eight DVDs a year, over the course of only two weekends' worth of tapings. Thus saving money on flights, accomodation and other expenses.

Ring of Honor, on the other hand, is known for running around 30 shows a year, in various different locations, primarily in the North East of the United States and also in South Eastern Canada. It may, therefore, be too much to expect female talent to be flown in, from far flung parts of the world, on a regular basis. ROH has rarely flown-in any wrestlers from outside of America's North East, since the beginning of the recession era.

Another way in which the division may have to differ from SHIMMER is in it's style of wrestling.

SHIMMER is, predominantly, known for it's colourful characters and focus on fun. The ROH women's division would, in this writer's opinion, need to replicate the traditional ROH hard-hitting, high workrate style more closely. Finding a balance, between presenting a super serious product and showcasing the unique qualities of female wrestling, would be vital.

When piecing together the roster, ROH's top brass would face the task of identifying women that are based within the company's catchment area, who can get over whilst working this hybrid style.

Keep an eye on in the coming days, for Part Two of 'Creative Direction: Women of Honor', in which Dave will outline the talent that he would select, to form the initial core of the WOH Division.

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