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#1 ·
Unlike HDNet, the weekly broadcasts will air at different times and for those of us abroad, we'll be seeing it at all different times online too, so I guess we can discuss events/happenings here.

Here's the preview for this week.



SBG have brought some great technical leaps since HDNet. The Haas/Benjamin segment with them holding the belts looks real clear, for instance.

Can't wait.
 
#6,912 ·
I should start watching WOH too :yum:
 
#6,914 ·
LOL Velvet vs Mandy Leon main event.

Its like the graveyard of old TNA (they are technically dead when Anthem folded the original holding company)
 
#6,920 ·
This is insanely apt. I don't want to be one of those "NOT MUH GABE" people but I'm going to be one of those "NOT MUH GABE" people. How the fuck is Delirious still in charge of booking and how is Sinclair still in charge of management? Do they hate money or something?
 
#6,918 ·
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST ROH, DO YOU WANT TO DIE?

Delirious is solidifying himself as the worst booker in wrestling. and Sinclair are the worst owners in the world, because they have NO idea what the idiots they have working for them are doing.
 
#6,922 ·
I can't see ROH talent being happy with Bully/Bubba. He must have got something big from ROH at their expense.
 
#6,927 · (Edited)
Yeah, you could tell Gabe was getting burnt out around 07-08 as things just weren't working as well as they once did with roster transitions and new ideas getting over. I just wish the company had let him finish out 2008 or at least carry out the last of his plans from October to December of that year. It's like they went in the complete opposite direction of what Gabe had spent most of the year getting the company at with Tyler Black becoming World Champion sooner and whatnot.

From there it was just a domino effect of potential company flagbearers (like Black, Davey, Elgin) getting their due too late, people as champion who had no business being champion (like Aries, Lynn, WGTT & Edwards) and the company either waiting too long to fully get behind someone before they left (see Chris Hero, Claudio Castagnoli, Kenny Omega, Kenny King of ANX) or not getting behind them as much as they should have (see El Generico, The Young Bucks during their second run).

In my opinion, his departure started a 5 year free fall for ROH that mercifully came to an end in 2014 with a properly handled new pool of top stars (Steen, Cole, Lethal, Elgin, reDRagon, etc.) and the NJPW partnership leading to a resurgence for the country. Unfortunately, it looks like we're heading back to dark times again. Now, we have almost a year of weird programs and several potential future World Champions (O'Reilly, ACH, Dijak, Bennett, Cedric, etc.) handled improperly and gone elsewhere plus horribly playing bitch to NJPW whenever they come around to home turf.
 
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#6,935 ·
Honestly I think it's great Hardy's and Bully Ray both ended up in ROH at Wrestlemania season. Creates a little extra buzz for ROH going into the time of the year that the most eyes are on wrestling in general.
 
#6,936 ·
PWInsider said:
Very few people were aware of the Bubba Ray Dudley and Hardy Boys appearances last night before they happened at ROH Manhattan Mayhem VI. ROH staffers were told to be ready for autograph sessions at intermission and after the show, but were not told with who. I don't believe anyone beyond Joe Koff, Delirious and Greg Gilliand were aware before the show, with perhaps the Young Bucks being the lone exception.

Bull James was backstage meeting with ROH officials last night.

Also backstage were Alex Reynolds, John Silver and Maxwell Jacob Feinstein, who are all good hands.

Ian Riccaboni and Silas Young did commentary.
Bull James fpalm
 
#6,939 ·
I see no issue with Bully Ray getting a short stint in ROH. I can't foresee it being a long stay. Manhattan was a perfect place to have him get involved (an old ECW stomping ground) and it gives them some additional buzz going into Wrestlemania weekend. We don't even know at this point if Bully is sticking around past that appearance.

The Hardys getting some additional time in ROH is delightdul!

To everyone complaining about the booking, if you don't like it then stop watching! It frustrates me so much that wrestling fans can't just be fans anymore and they believe they should be the bookers. I will admit I have been that way some in the past, but you know what? When you stop worrying so much about the backstage stuff you have a lot more fun watching. For fuck's sake!
 
#6,940 ·
Then don't rag on other companies when ROH have arguably done something worse.
 
#6,943 ·
I feel like a putz because I've only started watching Ring of Honor in the last year and I've heard nothing but how bad the current product is. I've been loving the older DVDs though. I made a killing at that last insane sale they had.

Live it's still awesome. But I gotta agree that the NJPW partnership is what's keeping them afloat right now.
 
#6,944 ·
Sh*ttiest thing about these VOD's is that they don't even come out the next day after the show, that sh*t takes like 4-5 days.
 
#6,945 ·
Idk where the fuck all these people came from in this thread. Many of you don't post it in here on a regular basis but ROH has been in a far worse position than it is right now. They're making money. They're touring all over the world. They're back in the Hammerstein and selling it out after a few year absence. Could they improve on a lot of things? Hell yes. Their video quality could be a LOT better on the VODs, they could run more iPPVs to generate even more revenue, they could utilize their talent much better and not waste them and then see them do great in another company, etc. BUT the company is not drowning. This was literally one night and I see nothing wrong with anything that went down. Hardys coming in and winning the titles was a great swerve and excellent for business. No clue where the Bully thing goes from here, but I wish it had been saved for later unless he's helping Daniels win the title or something. Fallen Angel feels like an afterthought now, as does Castle. That's my two problems. Too many challengers and title matches lined up right now.

I completely understand if you don't like the product or the booking, but they're not dying or anything. They're touring in more places throughout the U.S. than ever before and making money. That's the biggest thing that matters.
 
#6,947 ·
Well that shows you the power of the Hardys these days and how DUMB TNA was in letting them go. People follow them. They move numbers.

I don't see a problem at all with them or Bully coming over to RoH at all. From what I've heard Bully Rays heel run in TNA was great and one of the few bright spots in the last few years of TNA (I know there was some dumb shit with Hogan) and the Hardys were the only reason to watch TNA the last year. It's not like RoH brought in Crazzy Steve or Gunner.

Bull Dempsy though is another story.
 
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