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post #161 of 2818 (permalink) Old 09-26-2011, 09:08 PM
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I thought the show was fine. Not bad, not great. Worked fine for introducing some new people. I felt like three matches would have done better, though, since the middle of the show dragged with so many non-in-ring videos and packages. I dig wanting to introduce the existence of iPPV's, non-TV events, the champ, etc., I just don't think that was the way to do it. I could be wrong.

McGuinness sounded so professional. One of the easiest commentators to listen to ROH has ever had, at least for that night. His return was all the fan service the show needed.

I thought Futureshock looked good. Spotty stuff should have some appeal.

Main event was also fine. Not a great match. I don't really think those two teams have had more than one great match anyway. But in terms of introducing the tag champs, it worked. They beat some big goofy-looking dudes.

While I didn't like so many non-wrestling bits, I thought the on-the-street segments were a great idea. I'd keep that up in some form.
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post #162 of 2818 (permalink) Old 09-26-2011, 09:20 PM
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Fair enough, but why not bump the other useless tag match which was boring as hell and have your world champion in action? If they wanted to gain new fans by going on TV then they have failed. Why not instigate some proper feuds or storylines, or something to make the viewers return next week? As I said, it felt more like a 1 hour infomercial of sorts, advertising what an ROH live show is like. If that's what they want to do, then fine, but they're not going to draw any viewers bar the ROH faithful, which is hardy anyone
I know this guy's a troll but trolls tend to act as FAQ machines.

How the fuck can you start running angles, when you haven't even introduced the new audience to the whole concept of the show yet? You have to set the normal level. Once they've introduced the roster and the product itself, then they can start to run the angles.

This show:

- Introduced the Code of Honor.
- Introduced the commentary team (another important part of setting the moral compass of the show).
- Got the fans/community over.
- Told everyone that there's an actual tag team division.
- Gave a taster of the in-ring style.
- Teased World and TV title matches to come.
- Shilled the website and the main DVD that they're trying to shift.

It couldn't have done it's job any better than it did.

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But it needs to be filled with guys just looking for paychecks and doing comedy skits that lead to nothing but shitty matches, if they even lead to anthing at all.
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I wouldn't have minded another match in the middle of the show instead of the whole Davey crying bit, and thats not me just knocking Davey for once, they could have shortened the highlight video by 5 minutes.

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I feel the Code of Honor isn't something to be hyped.

If the wrestlers respect each other, they'll shake hands.
We already see that in other promotions.
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Blasphemy, I tells you!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of...#Code_of_Honor

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I know what the rules of the original Code of Honor were.

It's expected that babyfaces are going to respect one another and keep the match clean.
When a heels breaks the code, they're not heavily shamed and there's no punishment brought down on them.

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My review

Production

Hello 1992! Where did they find the production crew for this show. It's obvious they were using early 90's tec and production know how, trying to imitate modern WWE with the blue lights on the crowd and and video interviews. The show felt like they were trying to replicate TNA style of interviews and their reality formula. I think they were even using TNAs old slogan and trying to use a version of their marketing campaign. They did poor jobs all round.

Content
Future Shock vs. The Bravado Brothers *1/2
WGTT vs. The Kings of Wrestling **

The wrestling on this show was very long and boring. It doesn't look as real as WWE or TNA, much less believability. They were trying to fill out the shows runtime with longer matches, obvious they couldn't afford more backstage segments and in ring segments. They cover this up by stretching the matches out. Should avoid that in the future. Most WWE and TNA matches are 3 or so minuets so it is obvious they are better fighters if they win matches faster against bigger more skilled opponents.

Commentary is a big improvement over the regular commentator team. Hopefully they stick with these two guys. The audio was really bad.

Stray Observations
- Obviously filmed in a high school gym.
- They need better writers for the wrestlers who don't have anything interesting to say ever.
- Huge improvement on commentary, they feel less amateur now.
- Show feels like a generic cheap wrestling show with little effort put in by everyone involved.
- Wrestlers have no it factor, feels like they are just collecting a payday while playing wrestler at their local high school gym.

OVERALL: 3/10

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I feel the Code of Honor isn't something to be hyped.

If the wrestlers respect each other, they'll shake hands.
We already see that in other promotions.
The Promotion is RING OF HONOR, by exposing the company to a potential new audience the company name had to be explained and reintroducing the code of honor was the best way to do that.

Without it, potential new viewers would be like, "Ring Of Honor what a stupid name for a wrestling promotion, what does that even mean? What makes these guys so HONORable?"
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post #170 of 2818 (permalink) Old 09-27-2011, 08:07 AM
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1 more point - the camerawork was horrible! Why not have your hard cam zoom in and out slightly like WWE and TNA do, and use less of the ringside shots.. I have no expericence in television whatsoever and even I could have told them this..

And what a crappy way to start a show, having Kevin Kelly, some guy from the 90's who got made fun of by The Rock on a weekly basis for such things as picking his nose introduce a guy from TNA who's last appearance there was being called a small-dicked loser by his girlfriend "Chelsea"

You're right that only ROH fans could have possibly enjoyed this show, and if they don't try and adapt to a modern style they will fail.. I'd like to see the numbers for this week compared to next week, wouldn't be surprised to see half the audience drop off
I really liked the camera work. They angles were different than what WWE and TNA does and vast improvement over what they do for DVDs.

Also I don't think there will be numbers available since they run on different stations at different times. Nielson takes a sample but odds are they only have a handful of people in each station so you would see ROH get 0.0s in a bunch of areas since none of the 10 people with boxes were watching. Then there would be a few areas where they would have absirdly high ratings (like in the 15s) because 1 person out of the 6 in the area that got the show watched. Unless you're on national TV where you basically air everywhere in the country at the same time it's really hard to figure out how many viewers you actually got.


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I wouldn't have minded another match in the middle of the show instead of the whole Davey crying bit, and thats not me just knocking Davey for once, they could have shortened the highlight video by 5 minutes.
I would have booked Davey in a squash. Yeah he had a match later in the night but this is the first show and the best way to showcase Davey is in the ring.

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