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Old 09-26-2011, 11:47 AM   #131 (permalink)
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1 more point - the camerawork was horrible! Why not have your hard cam zoom in and out slightly like WWE and TNA do, and use less of the ringside shots.. I have no expericence in television whatsoever and even I could have told them this..

And what a crappy way to start a show, having Kevin Kelly, some guy from the 90's who got made fun of by The Rock on a weekly basis for such things as picking his nose introduce a guy from TNA who's last appearance there was being called a small-dicked loser by his girlfriend "Chelsea"

You're right that only ROH fans could have possibly enjoyed this show, and if they don't try and adapt to a modern style they will fail.. I'd like to see the numbers for this week compared to next week, wouldn't be surprised to see half the audience drop off
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Old 09-26-2011, 11:53 AM   #132 (permalink)
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So to summerize this thread so far......

1) The show was decent but needs some work in areas.

2) TNA fans didn't like it.
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lol at the trolls. as someone who stopped watching ROH on any consistent basis whatsoever about 3 years ago this show did little for me. I'm not gonna cry about production value or promos. I just don't feel the ROH style is made for a weekly television product. decent matches. decent show. I'll probably watch for a few more weeks before I lose interest in ROH again much like I did with the HDNet show.

audio hurt it quite a bit tho. could barely hear the commentators at some points and it made the crowd sound like an Impact Zone one because I could barely hear them.
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Fair enough, but why not bump the other useless tag match which was boring as hell and have your world champion in action? If they wanted to gain new fans by going on TV then they have failed. Why not instigate some proper feuds or storylines, or something to make the viewers return next week? As I said, it felt more like a 1 hour infomercial of sorts, advertising what an ROH live show is like. If that's what they want to do, then fine, but they're not going to draw any viewers bar the ROH faithful, which is hardy anyone
I think we need to view this in television form;

This was a pilot, an introduction.

We were introduced to the in ring style, Richards emotional title win, the code of honor, and ROH's highest profile stars WGTT.

The next few weeks we will continue to be introduced to more characters and personalities and from there with the introduction phase out of the way the characters and stories will begin taking shape and that's where the growth will come from.

ROH was simply not going to gain significant audience through this first show as there was no frame of reference for new viewers in terms of the ROH mythos or it's characters or stories.

Which is why the current approach in my view is the right one.
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1 more point - the camerawork was horrible! Why not have your hard cam zoom in and out slightly like WWE and TNA do, and use less of the ringside shots.. I have no expericence in television whatsoever and even I could have told them this..

And what a crappy way to start a show, having Kevin Kelly, some guy from the 90's who got made fun of by The Rock on a weekly basis for such things as picking his nose introduce a guy from TNA who's last appearance there was being called a small-dicked loser by his girlfriend "Chelsea"

You're right that only ROH fans could have possibly enjoyed this show, and if they don't try and adapt to a modern style they will fail.. I'd like to see the numbers for this week compared to next week, wouldn't be surprised to see half the audience drop off
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The one thing that will hurt is the lack of continuity and having to deal with the delay with live events, iPPV's, etc. It limits what you can do. 4 weeks is better than 6 weeks, however.
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by the way just because a couple TNA mark trolls didn't enjoy the show (which we all knew they weren't going in) doesn't mean it won't attract new fans. if this was my first exposure to ROH and if I hadn't seen ROH during its best years then I probably would fall in love with the product myself.

I hope they aren't going to be doing the TV tapings in whatever random appalachian sin clair market that picks up this show though. sure they can do live/house/dvd shows in those markets, but the TV tapings should be kept in markets with a strong crowd.
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Makes more sense for the long run to grow the fan base slow and steady rather than pull in bandwagon...ers that will abandon the product at the drop of a hat.

Something I wish TNA would of done, just stick with what they were doing and be an alternative.
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The one thing that will hurt is the lack of continuity and having to deal with the delay with live events, iPPV's, etc. It limits what you can do. 4 weeks is better than 6 weeks, however.
Yeah, I brought that up earlier. I think the house shows, if they continue to release them on dvd as they have in the past, will always be a problem that can't be solved but it doesn't need to be an issue with the IPPVs, even TNA manage to work around that. Even with the dvds it's no so bad because ROH have always tried to put on matches that people really want to see regardless of whether they know the results in advance so it can still be dealt with. And they can imporve on the turnaround as well, Smart Mark Video managed to get CHIKARA King Of Trios out on dvd less than 24 hours after the conclusion this year, that's something to aim for.
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First time viewer of ROH here and will never be watching again. If you want wrestling matches with no meaning then go and watch WWE Superstars - which actually has some compelling matches.. Dibiase vs Tyson Kidd this week was great and told a story in the ring as well as having some great nearfalls.. it was much more exciting than what ROH put on for it's premiere (way to keep viewers hooked). ROH decide to put on 2 tag team matches for their first show? They don't even show off their world champion in the ring or give him any decent time bar a little segment and some coverage from PPV? This show felt more like an advert for an ROH live show, rather than a compelling TV show to tune back in to next week. The production was probably even poorer than ECW's was in the mid-90's too, almost 20 years ago.. Anyway, had my rant, continue
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