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Combat Analyst · 07-27-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JoseDRiveraTCR7

Pearce would be great. Elgin is a contender. I don't think anyone has nominated this guy as a face to take down Steen, but I think Jay Briscoe can also be that guy.

Elgin can't compare with Steen on the microphone. Still developing. Jay Briscoe can be the guy but he's still in a tag team with the Briscoes and has alot of building up to do.

**Jack Evans 187** · 07-27-2012, 03:52 PM

The fact that everyone is debating about whether Mike Mondo should get a push or not just shows how fucking depleted the ROH roster is. If this was say, a year ago, no fucking way anyone gets behind that guy. Imho I can't take him seriously whatsoever. His voice is just... awful. He oversells like a clown. Don't have a problem with him on the roster, just keep him on the undercard please. A match against Strong should be on TV or at a house show, not on iPPV.

And on the Jay Briscoe comment above, I hope to god that's who Steen defends against at Death Before Dishonor, and not Rhett Titus. Lot of history there and they've already shown us what they can do together. Jay doesn't have to be built up at all, he's been a top guy for years, not just in the tag division. He's had a bunch of title shots.

Combat Analyst · 07-27-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Evans 187

The fact that everyone is debating about whether Mike Mondo should get a push or not just shows how fucking depleted the ROH roster is. If this was say, a year ago, no fucking way anyone gets behind that guy. Imho I can't take him seriously whatsoever. His voice is just... awful. He oversells like a clown. Don't have a problem with him on the roster, just keep him on the undercard please. A match against Strong should be on TV or at a house show, not on iPPV.

And on the Jay Briscoe comment above, I hope to god that's who Steen defends against at Death Before Dishonor, and not Rhett Titus. Lot of history there and they've already shown us what they can do together. Jay doesn't have to be built up at all, he's been a top guy for years, not just in the tag division. He's had a bunch of title shots.

Mondo is a good mid-carder.

**Jack Evans 187** · 07-27-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Combat Analyst

Mondo is a good mid-carder.

Great input.

Combat Analyst · 07-27-2012, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Evans 187

Great input.

I mean he's not someone who should main-event a show, but he's definitely better then most people with that much muscle. (Rob Terry, Mason Ryan, Ezekial Jackson)

WEBSTER-WHYTE · 07-27-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Combat Analyst

I mean he's not someone who should main-event a show, but he's definitely better then most people with that much muscle. (Rob Terry, Mason Ryan, Ezekial Jackson)

My left ass cheek is a better midcarder than Rob Terry, Mason Ryan, Ezekiel Jackson. That's not a compliment to Mondo at all.

Nonetheless, I kind of like Mondo. He can put on some entertaining matches, but by no means should he get passed the midcard at his current level. In a few years time, if he drops some of his weight and improves in the ring, sure, push him.

Combat Analyst · 07-27-2012, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WEBSTER-WHYTE

My left ass cheek is a better midcarder than Rob Terry, Mason Ryan, Ezekiel Jackson. That's not a compliment to Mondo at all.

Nonetheless, I kind of like Mondo. He can put on some entertaining matches, but by no means should he get passed the midcard at his current level. In a few years time, if he drops some of his weight and improves in the ring, sure, push him.

Yeah, Mondo is not some guy who I utterly dislike, He isn't the best in the ring or on the mic, but the potential and effort is there. Again like I said he's a good mid-carder and nothing wrong with that.

sharkboy22 · 07-28-2012, 09:08 PM

Really I'm done with ROH. I'm done with independent wrestling on the whole. Cole vs Strong was a terrible mach. It was the literal definition of a move for move match with big spots. That match just proved that you don't have to be a highflyer to be termed a spot monkey because that's essentially what that match was, a spot fest. Completely devoid of any sort of psychology.

So 2 minutes into the match Strong sends Cole's neck onto the barricade and for what? After sending him back in the ring he just punches him. Wouldn't you go for the neck? Why was such a spot done if you never even bothered to come back to the neck throughout the entire match? Exactly, it was done to garner a pop. A spot which served no purpose and added to meaning to the match.

To further prove my point just a couple seconds after that spot Strong delivers a STO BACKbreaker to Cole. Ummmmmm....what? Why would you do a backbreaker if you freaking just damn near broke a guy's neck? Fuck, these guys aren't in the WWE not because they can't cut a promo. They can't fucking wrestle.

From there the match is just nothing but Cole and String trading punches or chops or just trading moves. I pick you up, slam you down. You pick me up, slam me down. Oh and it never cease to amaze how stupid it looks to see gys lock in one submission and randomly just lock in another. You have a boston crab applied. Squeeze the motherfucker with it. No instead, you release your hold momentarily to go for a I don't know what the fuck you call it. Where you pretzel the legs like your doing a sharpshooter but it's with your hands. Oh I'm a stupid idiot who doesn't know anything bout wrestling because I don't know what that move is called. Boo hoo.

God, I'm done. I'm done with this shit. All I do is complain. These matches are not entertianing, they are not fun to watch, they lack any sort of structure and it's just plain dumb to look at. It's unbelievable. These guys just continue to prove that it's not about the moves you know, it's how you use them. And quite frankly, these guys use them stupidly.

Combat Analyst · 07-28-2012, 10:01 PM

Eddie Kingston vs. Kevin Steen, should be good

**KingCrash** · 07-29-2012, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Evans 187

The fact that everyone is debating about whether Mike Mondo should get a push or not just shows how fucking depleted the ROH roster is. If this was say, a year ago, no fucking way anyone gets behind that guy. Imho I can't take him seriously whatsoever. His voice is just... awful. He oversells like a clown. Don't have a problem with him on the roster, just keep him on the undercard please. A match against Strong should be on TV or at a house show, not on iPPV.

That's pretty much what happened when Mondo came in and tagged with Elgin for a match and did a random 4CS.